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+After some months, I just updated my local ikiwiki sources, and rebuilt
+the Hurd web pages, <http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/web.git/>.
+
+I was confused, having switched to the new automatic (thanks!) --gettime
+mechanism, why on some pages the timestamps had changed compared to my
+previous use of --getctime and setting files' mtimes (using a script)
+according to the last Git commit. For example:
+
+community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.html
+
+old:
+
+ Last edited <span class="date">2008-09-11 18:11:53 UTC</span>
+ <!-- Created <span class="date">2008-09-11 17:47:08 UTC</span> -->
+
+new:
+
+ Last edited <span class="date">2008-09-11 18:12:22 UTC</span>
+ <!-- Created <span class="date">2008-09-11 17:47:50 UTC</span> -->
+
+
+I had a look at what git.pm is doing, and began to manually replay /
+investigate:
+
+ $ git log --pretty=fuller --name-only --relative -- community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+ commit 8f1b97bfe45b2f173e3a7d55dee226a9e289a695
+ Author: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ AuthorDate: Thu Sep 11 20:11:53 2008 +0200
+ Commit: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ CommitDate: Thu Sep 11 20:11:53 2008 +0200
+
+ Added a link to the X.org guide in this wiki.
+
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ commit 3ef8b7d80d80572c436c4c60c71879bc74409816
+ Author: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ AuthorDate: Thu Sep 11 19:47:08 2008 +0200
+ Commit: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ CommitDate: Thu Sep 11 19:47:08 2008 +0200
+
+ Minor update on the enty trying to get X working -> 'watch this place for updates'
+
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+OK, these are my old dates.
+
+ $ git log --pretty=format:%ci --name-only --relative -- community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+ 2008-09-11 20:11:53 +0200
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ 2008-09-11 19:47:08 +0200
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ $ git log --pretty=format:%ct --name-only --relative -- community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+ 1221156713
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ 1221155228
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ $ date -d @1221156713
+ Thu Sep 11 18:11:53 UTC 2008
+ $ date -d @1221155228
+ Thu Sep 11 17:47:08 UTC 2008
+
+That's all consistent.
+
+
+But:
+
+ $ perl -le 'use Storable; my $index=Storable::retrieve("indexdb"); use Data::Dumper; print Dumper $index'
+ [...]
+ 'community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn' => {
+ 'ctime' => '1221155270',
+ 'dest' => [
+ 'community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.html'
+ ],
+ 'typedlinks' => {
+ 'tag' => {}
+ },
+ 'mtime' => 1221156742,
+ 'depends_simple' => {
+ 'sidebar' => 1
+ },
+ 'links' => [
+ 'community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x/discussion',
+ 'Hurd/DebianXorg'
+ ],
+ 'state' => {
+ [...]
+
+ $ date -d @1221156742
+ Thu Sep 11 18:12:22 UTC 2008
+ $ date -d @1221155270
+ Thu Sep 11 17:47:50 UTC 2008
+
+That's different, and it matches what the new ikiwiki writes into the
+HTML file.
+
+
+Back to Git again, this time without specifying the file:
+
+ $ git log --pretty=format:%ct --name-only --relative
+ [...]
+ 1221255713
+ 1221255655
+ unsorted/PortingIssues.mdwn
+
+ 1221156742 [Thu Sep 11 18:12:22 UTC 2008]
+ 1221156713 [Thu Sep 11 18:11:53 UTC 2008]
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ 1221156267
+ 1221156235
+ index.mdwn
+
+ 1221156122
+ 1221156091
+ index.mdwn
+
+ 1221155942
+ 1221155910
+ index.mdwn
+
+ 1221155270 [Thu Sep 11 17:47:50 UTC 2008]
+ 1221155228 [Thu Sep 11 17:47:08 UTC 2008]
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+
+ 1221154986
+ community/gsoc.mdwn
+ community/gsoc/project_ideas.mdwn
+
+ 1221147244
+ whatsnew.html
+ [...]
+
+Aha!
+
+... and some more detail:
+
+ $ git log --pretty=fuller --name-only --relative
+ [...]
+ commit e4e89e1683012c879012522105a3471a00714613
+ Author: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
+ AuthorDate: Fri Sep 12 23:40:55 2008 +0200
+ Commit: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
+ CommitDate: Fri Sep 12 23:40:55 2008 +0200
+
+ MSG_NOSIGNAL and IPV6_PKTINFO got fixed
+
+ unsorted/PortingIssues.mdwn
+
+ commit c389fae98dff86527be62f895ff7272e4ab1932c
+ Merge: 0339e3e 8f1b97b
+ Author: GNU Hurd wiki engine <web-hurd@gnu.org>
+ AuthorDate: Thu Sep 11 18:12:22 2008 +0000
+ Commit: GNU Hurd wiki engine <web-hurd@gnu.org>
+ CommitDate: Thu Sep 11 18:12:22 2008 +0000
+
+ Merge branch 'master' of wiki@192.168.10.50:wiki
+
+ commit 8f1b97bfe45b2f173e3a7d55dee226a9e289a695
+ Author: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ AuthorDate: Thu Sep 11 20:11:53 2008 +0200
+ Commit: arnebab <arne_bab@web.de>
+ CommitDate: Thu Sep 11 20:11:53 2008 +0200
+
+ Added a link to the X.org guide in this wiki.
+
+ community/weblogs/ArneBab/2008-08-02-gnu_hurd_and_x.mdwn
+ [...]
+
+So, merges are involved there.
+
+What (the new) ikiwiki code does, is use the timestamp when the merge was
+done instead of the timestamp when the commit was done. Is this
+intentional? Otherwise I could supply a patch.
+
+--[[tschwinge]]