1 Seems like there should be a page for you to post your thoughts about
2 ikiwiki, both pro and con, anything that didn't work, ideas, or whatever.
5 Note that for more formal bug reports or todo items, you can also edit the
6 [[bugs]] and [[todo]] pages.
10 # Installation/Setup questions
12 Ikiwiki creates a .ikiwiki directory in my wikiwc working directory. Should I
13 "svn add .ikiwiki" or add it to svn:ignore?
15 > `.ikiwiki` is used by ikiwiki to store internal state. You can add it to
16 > svn:ignore. --[[Joey]]
19 Is there an easy way to log via e-mail to some webmaster address, instead
22 > Not sure why you'd want to do that, but couldn't you use a tool like
23 > logwatch to mail selected lines from the syslog? --[[Joey]]
26 # Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site?
28 I just discovered ikiwiki quite by chance, I was looking for a console/terminal
29 menu system and found pdmenu. So pdmenu brought me to here and I've found ikiwiki!
30 It looks as if it's just what I've been wanting for a long time. I wanted something
31 to create mostly text web pages which, as far as possible, have source which is human
32 readable or at least in a standard format. ikiwiki does this twice over by using
33 markdown for the source and producing static HTML from it.
35 I'm currently using TWiki and have a fair number of pages in that format, does
36 anyone have any bright ideas for translating? I can knock up awk scripts fairly
37 easily, perl is possible (but I'm not strong in perl).
39 > Let us know if you come up with something to transition from the other
40 > format. Another option would be writing a ikiwiki plugin to support the
41 > TWiki format. --[[Joey]]
43 > Jamey Sharp and I have a set of scripts in progress to convert other wikis to ikiwiki, including history, so that we can migrate a few of our wikis. We already have support for migrating MoinMoin wikis to ikiwiki, including conversion of the entire history to Git. We used this to convert the [XCB wiki](http://xcb.freedesktop.org/wiki/) to ikiwiki; until we finalize the conversion and put the new wiki in place of the old one, you can browse the converted result at <http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ikiwiki>. We already plan to add support for TWiki (including history, since you can just run parsecvs on the TWiki RCS files to get Git), so that we can convert the [Portland State Aerospace Society wiki](http://psas.pdx.edu) (currently in Moin, but with much of its history in TWiki, and with many of its pages still in TWiki format using Jamey's TWiki format for MoinMoin).
45 > Our scripts convert by way of HTML, using portions of the source wiki's code to render as HTML (with some additional code to do things like translate MoinMoin's `\[[TableOfContents]]` to ikiwiki's `\[[toc ]]`), and then using a modified [[cpan HTML::WikiConverter]] to turn this into markdown and ikiwiki. This produces quite satisfactory results, apart from things that don't have any markdown equivalent and thus remain HTML, such as tables and definition lists. Conversion of the history occurs by first using another script we wrote to translate MoinMoin history to Git, then using our git-map script to map a transformation over the Git history.
47 > We will post the scripts as soon as we have them complete enough to convert our wikis.
51 >> Thanks for an excellent Xmas present, I will appreciate the additional
52 >> users this will help switch to ikiwiki! --[[Joey]]
58 Moved to [[todo/latex]] --[[Joey]]
64 Moved to a [[todo_item|todo/CVS_backend]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
68 # Show differences before saving page?
70 Moved to the existing [[todo_item|todo/preview_changes]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
76 Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form?
79 >>> See [[todo/fileupload]] for an idea on limiting page size. --[[Joey]]
85 Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other
86 wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an
87 accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those
88 actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts?
89 --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
91 > Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at
92 > <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html> into account.
94 >> Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to
95 >> in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a
96 >> a user complaint recently that Alt-e in oddmuse was overriding his access
97 >> to the browser menu.
101 # Editing the style sheet.
103 It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it.
104 Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
106 > I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets [[todo/fileupload]] support,
107 > it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed
108 > extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is
109 > probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would
110 > be filtered out of any regular page in ikiwiki). --[[Joey]]
112 >> I hadn't thought of that at all. It's a common feature and one I've
113 >> relied on safely, because the wikis I am maintaining at the moment
114 >> are all private and restricted to trusted users. Given that the whole
115 >> point of ikiwiki is to be able to access and edit via the shell as
116 >> well as the web, I suppose the features doesn't add a lot. By the
117 >> way, the w3m mode is brilliant. I haven't tried it yet, but the idea
122 # Should not create an existing page
124 This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first.
125 Clicking on an old "?" or going to a create link but new Markdown content exists, should not go into "create" mode, but should do a regular "edit".
127 > I belive that currently it does a redirect to the new static web page.
128 > At least that's the intent of the code. --[[Joey]]
130 >> Try at your site: `?page=discussion&from=index&do=create`
131 >> It brings up an empty textarea to start a new webpage -- even though it already exists here. --reed
133 >>> Ah, right. Notice that the resulting form allows saving the page as
134 >>> discussion, or users/discussion, but not index/discussion, since this
135 >>> page already exists. If all the pages existed, it would do the redirect
136 >>> thing. --[[Joey]]
140 # User database tools?
142 Any tool to view user database?
144 Any tool to edit the user database?
146 > No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to
147 > list all users in the user database:
149 joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo'
150 http://joey.kitenet.net/
153 > To list each user's email address:
155 joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo'
159 > Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store().
160 > I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed
161 > to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time.