1 [[!template id=gitbranch branch=GiuseppeBilotta/inlinestuff author="[[GiuseppeBilotta]]"]]
3 I rearranged my patchset once again, to clearly identify the origin and
4 motivation of each patch, which is explained in the following.
6 In my ikiwiki-based website I have the following situation:
8 * `$config{usedirs}` is 1
9 * there are a number of subdirectories (A/, B/, C/, etc)
10 with pages under each of them (A/page1, A/page2, B/page3, etc)
11 * 'index pages' for each subdirectory: A.mdwn, B.mdwn, C.mdwn;
12 these are rather barebone, only contain an inline directive for their
13 respective subpages and become A/index.html, etc
14 * there is also the main index.mdwn, which inlines A.mdwn, B.mdwn, C.mdwn,
15 etc (i.e. the top-level index files are also inlined on the homepage)
17 With the upstream `inline` plugin, the feeds for A, B, C etc are located
18 in `A/index.atom`, `B/index.atom`, etc; their title is the wiki name and
19 their main link goes to the wiki homepage rather than to their
20 respective subdir (e.g. I would expect `A/index.atom` to have a link to
21 `http://website/A` but it actually points to `http://website/`).
23 This is due to them being generated from the main index page, and is
24 fixed by the first patch: ‘inline: base feed urls on included page
25 name’. As explained in the commit message for the patch itself, this is
26 a ‘forgotten part’ from a previous page vs destpage fix which has
27 already been included upstream.
33 The second patch, ‘inline: improve feed title and description
34 management’, aligns feed title and description management by introducing
35 a `title` option to complement `description`, and by basing the
36 description on the page description if the entry is missing. If no
37 description is provided by either the directive parameter or the page
38 metadata, we use a user-configurable default based on both the page
39 title and wiki name rather than hard-coding the wiki name as description.
41 > Reviewing, this seems ok, but I don't like that
42 > `feed_desc_fmt` is "safe => 0". And I question if that needs
43 > to be configurable at all. I say, drop that configurable, and
44 > only use the page meta description (or wikiname for index).
46 > Oh, and could you indent your `elsif` the same as I? --[[Joey]]
48 >> I hadn't even realized that I was nesting ifs inside else clauses,
49 >> sorry. I think you're also right about the safety of the key, after
50 >> all it only gets interpolated with known, safe strings.
52 >>> I did not mean to imply that I thought it safe. --[[Joey]]
54 >>>> Sorry for assuming you implied that. I do think it is safe, though
55 >>>> (I defaulted to not safe just to err on the safe side).
57 >> The question is what to do for pages that do not have a description
58 >> (and are not the index). With your proposal, the Atom feed subtitle
59 >> would turn up empty. We could make it conditional in the default
60 >> template, or we could have `$desc` default to `$title` if nothing
61 >> else is provided, but at this point I see no reason to _not_ allow
62 >> the user to choose a way to build a default description.
64 >>> RSS requires the `<description>` element be present, it can't
65 >>> be conditionalized away. But I see no reason to add the complexity
66 >>> of an option to configure a default value for a field that
67 >>> few RSS consumers likely even use. That's about 3 levels below useful.
70 >>>> The way I see it, there are three possibilities for non-index pages
71 >>>> which have no description meta: (1) we leave the
72 >>>> description/subtitle in feed blank, per your current proposal here
73 >>>> (2) we hard-code some string to put there and (3) we make the
74 >>>> string to put there configurable. Honestly, I think option #1 sucks
75 >>>> aesthetically and option #2 is conceptually wrong (I'm against
76 >>>> hard-coding stuff in general), which leaves option #3: however
77 >>>> rarely used it would be, I still think it'd be better than #2 and
78 >>>> less unaesthetical than #1.
80 >>>> I'm also not sure what's ‘complex’ about having such an option:
81 >>>> it's definitely not going to get much use, but does it hurt to have
82 >>>> it? I could understand not wasting time putting it in, but since
83 >>>> the code is written already … (but then again I'm known for being a
84 >>>> guy who loves options).
86 The third patch, ‘inline: allow assigning an id to postform/feedlink’,
87 does just that. I don't currently use it, but it can be particularly
88 useful in the postform case for example for scriptable management of
89 multiple postforms in the same page.
95 In one of my wiki setups I had a terminating '/' in `$config{url}`. You
96 mention that it should not be present, but I have not seen this
97 requirement described anywhere. Rather than restricting the user input,
98 I propose a patch that prevents double slashes from appearing in links
99 created by `urlto()` by fixing the routine itself.
101 > If this is fixed I would rather not put the overhead of fixing it in
102 > every call to `urlto`. And I'm not sure this is a comprehensive
103 > fix to every problem a trailing slash in the url could cause. --[[Joey]]
105 >> Maybe something that sanitizes the config value would be better instead?
106 >> What is the policy about automatic changing user config?
108 >>> It's impossible to do for perl-format setup files. --[[Joey]]
110 >>>> Ok. In that case I think that we should document that it must be
111 >>>> slash-less. I'll cook up a patch in that sense.
113 The inline plugin is also updated (in a separate patch) to use `urlto()`
114 rather than hand-coding the feed urls. You might want to keep this
115 change even if you discard the urlto patch.
117 > IIRC, I was missing a proof that this always resulted in identical urls,
118 > which is necessary to prevent flooding. I need such a proof before I can
119 > apply that. --[[Joey]]
121 >> Well, the URL would obviously change if the `$config{url}` ended in
122 >> slash and the `urlto` patch (or other equivalent) went into effect.
124 >> Aside from that, if I read the code correctly, the only other extra
125 >> thing that `urlto` does is to `beautify_url_path` the `"/".$to` part,
126 >> and the only way this would cause the url to be altered is if the
127 >> feed name was "index" (which can easily happen) and
128 >> `$config{htmlext}` was set to something like `.rss` or
131 >> So there is a remote possibility that a different URL would be