1 I am aware that you (Joey) [[made_a_choice_against_a_mailing_list|contact]],
2 but I would like to see you reconsider.
4 The wiki works well for bugs and
5 collaborating on the software, but not for simple user support issues. For
6 instance, I spent the last three days waiting for any form of reply to my
7 question on IRC (none so far):
9 09 15:49 < madduck> any ideas how to implement a two-level menu
10 09 15:40 < madduck> like http://www.abacons.ch/leistungen/treuhand.html ?
11 09 15:50 < madduck> the top bar are the main sections
12 09 15:50 < madduck> and then i might need subsections (further down) under each
13 09 15:50 < madduck> i'd like to do this without hardcoding sections in the template
14 09 15:50 < madduck> but at least the main sections are to appear on all pages
15 09 15:50 < madduck> so the template needs a slot, i just wonder how best to fill it
16 09 15:51 < madduck> i can only ever use one navbar it seems
17 09 15:51 < madduck> and i already need the sidebar for something else
19 I would not know where to take this question on the wiki itself.
21 A mailing list is made for these kind of questions, and as we pick up even
22 more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]]
24 > I wouldn't mind a mailing list myself. For many people, e-mail is more
25 > efficient to process, particularly offline, than wiki pages. Also,
26 > ikiwiki's discussion pages require a fair amount of discipline from
27 > users to make it easy to follow a long discussion. On the other hand,
28 > it would be interesting to make improvements to ikiwiki
29 > (read: plugins) to to see if it's possible to accomodate both
30 > mail people and online people.
31 > --[liw](http://liw.fi)
33 >> The [Zwiki](http://zwiki.org) project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list.
34 >> Currently Zwiki's [email features](http://zwiki.org/Mail) are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate
35 >> ml software. This is simple and mostly satisfying. Now and then we miss the familiarity and industrial
36 >> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with [gmane](http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.zwiki) so people
37 >> can use that as an alternative. I'm happy to chat about this, ping me..
38 >> --[sm](http://joyful.com)