1 Seems like there should be a page for you to post your thoughts about
2 ikiwiki, both pro and con, anything that didn't work, ideas, or whatever.
5 Note that for more formal bug reports or todo items, you can also edit the
6 [[bugs]] and [[todo]] pages.
10 # Installation/Setup questions
12 Ikiwiki creates a .ikiwiki directory in my wikiwc working directory. Should I
13 "svn add .ikiwiki" or add it to svn:ignore?
15 > `.ikiwiki` is used by ikiwiki to store internal state. You can add it to
16 > svn:ignore. --[[Joey]]
19 Is there an easy way to log via e-mail to some webmaster address, instead
22 > Not sure why you'd want to do that, but couldn't you use a tool like
23 > logwatch to mail selected lines from the syslog? --[[Joey]]
25 > > The reason is that I'm not logged in on the web server regularly to
26 > > check the log files. I'll see whether I can install a logwatch instance.
29 # Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site?
31 I just discovered ikiwiki quite by chance, I was looking for a console/terminal
32 menu system and found pdmenu. So pdmenu brought me to here and I've found ikiwiki!
33 It looks as if it's just what I've been wanting for a long time. I wanted something
34 to create mostly text web pages which, as far as possible, have source which is human
35 readable or at least in a standard format. ikiwiki does this twice over by using
36 markdown for the source and producing static HTML from it.
38 I'm currently using TWiki and have a fair number of pages in that format, does
39 anyone have any bright ideas for translating? I can knock up awk scripts fairly
40 easily, perl is possible (but I'm not strong in perl).
42 > Let us know if you come up with something to transition from the other
43 > format. Another option would be writing a ikiwiki plugin to support the
44 > TWiki format. --[[Joey]]
46 > Jamey Sharp and I have a set of scripts in progress to convert other wikis to ikiwiki, including history, so that we can migrate a few of our wikis. We already have support for migrating MoinMoin wikis to ikiwiki, including conversion of the entire history to Git. We used this to convert the [XCB wiki](http://xcb.freedesktop.org/wiki/) to ikiwiki; until we finalize the conversion and put the new wiki in place of the old one, you can browse the converted result at <http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ikiwiki>. We already plan to add support for TWiki (including history, since you can just run parsecvs on the TWiki RCS files to get Git), so that we can convert the [Portland State Aerospace Society wiki](http://psas.pdx.edu) (currently in Moin, but with much of its history in TWiki, and with many of its pages still in TWiki format using Jamey's TWiki format for MoinMoin).
48 > Our scripts convert by way of HTML, using portions of the source wiki's code to render as HTML (with some additional code to do things like translate MoinMoin's `\[[TableOfContents]]` to ikiwiki's `\[[toc ]]`), and then using a modified [[cpan HTML::WikiConverter]] to turn this into markdown and ikiwiki. This produces quite satisfactory results, apart from things that don't have any markdown equivalent and thus remain HTML, such as tables and definition lists. Conversion of the history occurs by first using another script we wrote to translate MoinMoin history to Git, then using our git-map script to map a transformation over the Git history.
50 > We will post the scripts as soon as we have them complete enough to convert our wikis.
54 >> Thanks for an excellent Xmas present, I will appreciate the additional
55 >> users this will help switch to ikiwiki! --[[Joey]]
61 Moved to [[todo/latex]] --[[Joey]]
67 Moved to a [[todo_item|todo/CVS_backend]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
71 # Show differences before saving page?
73 Moved to the existing [[todo_item|todo/preview_changes]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
79 Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form?
82 >>> See [[todo/fileupload]] for an idea on limiting page size. --[[Joey]]
88 Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other
89 wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an
90 accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those
91 actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts?
92 --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
94 > Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at
95 > <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html> into account.
97 >> Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to
98 >> in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a
99 >> a user complaint recently that Alt-e in oddmuse was overriding his access
100 >> to the browser menu.
104 # Editing the style sheet.
106 It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it.
107 Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
109 > I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets [[todo/fileupload]] support,
110 > it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed
111 > extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is
112 > probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would
113 > be filtered out of any regular page in ikiwiki). --[[Joey]]
115 >> I hadn't thought of that at all. It's a common feature and one I've
116 >> relied on safely, because the wikis I am maintaining at the moment
117 >> are all private and restricted to trusted users. Given that the whole
118 >> point of ikiwiki is to be able to access and edit via the shell as
119 >> well as the web, I suppose the features doesn't add a lot. By the
120 >> way, the w3m mode is brilliant. I haven't tried it yet, but the idea
125 # Should not create an existing page
127 This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first.
128 Clicking on an old "?" or going to a create link but new Markdown content exists, should not go into "create" mode, but should do a regular "edit".
130 > I belive that currently it does a redirect to the new static web page.
131 > At least that's the intent of the code. --[[Joey]]
133 >> Try at your site: `?page=discussion&from=index&do=create`
134 >> It brings up an empty textarea to start a new webpage -- even though it already exists here. --reed
136 >>> Ah, right. Notice that the resulting form allows saving the page as
137 >>> discussion, or users/discussion, but not index/discussion, since this
138 >>> page already exists. If all the pages existed, it would do the redirect
139 >>> thing. --[[Joey]]
143 # User database tools?
145 Any tool to view user database?
147 Any tool to edit the user database?
149 > No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to
150 > list all users in the user database:
152 joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo'
153 http://joey.kitenet.net/
156 > To list each user's email address:
158 joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo'
162 > Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store().
163 > I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed
164 > to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time.
169 # Spaces in WikiLinks?
173 I've just switched from ikiwiki 2.0 to ikiwiki 2.2 and I'm really surprised
174 that I can't use the spaces in WikiLinks. Could you please tell me why the spaces
175 aren't allowed in WikiLinks now?
181 > See [[bugs/Spaces_in_link_text_for_ikiwiki_links]]
185 # Build in OpenSolaris?
187 Moved to [[bugs/build_in_opensolaris]] --[[Joey]]
191 # Various ways to use Subversion with ikiwiki
193 I'm playing around with various ways that I can use subversion with ikiwiki.
195 * Is it possible to have ikiwiki point to a subversion repository which is on a different server? The basic checkin/checkout functionality seems to work but there doesn't seem to be any way to make the post-commit hook work for a non-local server?
197 > This is difficult to do since ikiwiki's post-commit wrapper expects to
198 > run on a machine that contains both the svn repository and the .ikiwiki
199 > state directory. However, with recent versions of ikiwiki, you can get
200 > away without running the post-commit wrapper on commit, and all you lose
201 > is the ability to send commit notification emails.
203 * Is it possible / sensible to have ikiwiki share a subversion repository with other data (either completely unrelated files or another ikiwiki instance)? This works in part but again the post-commit hook seems problematic.
207 > Sure, see ikiwiki's subversion repository for example of non-wiki files
208 > in the same repo. If you have two wikis in one repository, you will need
209 > to write a post-commit script that calls the post-commit wrappers for each