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@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ translated with gettext, using [po4a](http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/).
 
 More information:
 
-* It can be found in my "po" branch on http://repo.or.cz/w/ikiwiki/intrigeri.git
+* It can be found in [my "po" branch](http://repo.or.cz/w/ikiwiki/intrigeri.git?a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/po): `git clone git://repo.or.cz/ikiwiki/intrigeri.git`
 * It involves adding three hooks to ikiwiki core.
 * It is documented (including TODO and plans for next work steps) in `doc/plugins/po.mdwn`, which can be found in the same branch.
 * No public demo site is available so far, I'm working on this.
@@ -14,3 +14,53 @@ The current version is a proof-of-concept, mature enough for me to dare submitti
 but I'm prepared to hear various helpful remarks, and to rewrite parts of it as needed.
 
 Any thoughts on this?
+
+> Well, I think it's pretty stunning what you've done here. Seems very
+> complete and well thought out. I have not read the code in great detail
+> yet.
+> 
+> Just using po files is an approach I've never seen tried with a wiki. I
+> suspect it will work better for some wikis than others. For wikis that
+> just want translations that match the master language as closely as
+> possible and don't wander off and diverge, it seems perfect. (But what happens
+> if someone edits the Discussion page of a translated page?)
+> 
+> Please keep me posted, when you get closer to having all issues solved
+> and ready for merging I can do a review and hopefully help with the
+> security items you listed. --[[Joey]]
+
+>> Thanks a lot for your quick review, it's reassuring to hear such nice words
+>> from you. I did not want to design and write a full translation system, when
+>> tools such as gettext/po4a already have all the needed functionality, for cases
+>> where the master/slave languages paradigm fits.
+>> Integrating these tools into ikiwiki plugin system was a pleasure.
+>>
+>> I'll tell you when I'm ready for merging, but in the meantime,
+>> I'd like you to review the changes I did to the core (3 added hooks).
+>> Can you please do this? If not, I'll go on and hope I'm not going to far in
+>> the wrong direction.
+>>
+>>> Sure.. I'm not completly happy with any of the hooks since they're very
+>>> special purpose, and also since `run_hooks` is not the best interface
+>>> for a hook that modifies a variable, where only the last hook run will
+>>> actually do anything. It might be better to just wrap
+>>> `targetpage`, `bestlink`, and `beautify_urlpath`. But, I noticed
+>>> the other day that such wrappers around exported functions are only visible by
+>>> plugins loaded after the plugin that defines them.
+>>> 
+>>> Update: Take a look at the new "Function overriding" section of
+>>> [[plugins/write]]. I think you can just inject wrappers about a few ikiwiki
+>>> functions, rather than adding hooks. The `inject` function is pretty
+>>> insane^Wlow level, but seems to work great. --[[Joey]]
+>>>
+>>>> Thanks a lot, it seems to be a nice interface for what I was trying to achieve.
+>>>> I may be forced to wait two long weeks before I have a chance to confirm
+>>>> this. Stay tuned. --[[intrigeri]]
+>>>>
+>>>>> I've updated the plugin to use `inject`. It is now fully self-contained,
+>>>>> and does not modify the core anymore. --[[intrigeri]]
+>>
+>> The Discussion pages issue is something I am not sure about yet. But I will
+>> probably decide that "slave" pages, being only translations, don't deserve
+>> a discussion page: the discussion should happen in the language in which the
+>> pages are written for real, which is the "master" one. --[[intrigeri]]