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@@ -172,4 +172,100 @@ Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]
 
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-I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[JonDowland]]
+I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+> Are you running perl with the environemnt settings specified on the page?
+> Can you show how it fails to find the bundle? --[[Joey]]
+
+>> I was not. Next time I build I will have to try that (I'll need to tweak it as I already override PERL5LIB; also I need to specify http proxies). Thanks for your help! -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+---
+
+##Further problems with Bundle::IkiWiki
+I'm also having trouble with finding Bundle::IkiWiki.  I've tried it with the environment settings and without them, and also using the interactive 
+form of the cpan command.  I've also gone to cpan.org and searched -- eg
+
+    http://search.cpan.org/search?query=ikiwiki&mode=all
+
+and no Bundle for IkiWiki comes up at all.
+
+The error I get from the various cpan attempts is basically always the same:
+
+    Warning: Cannot install Bundle::IkiWiki, don't know what it is.
+    Try the command
+
+        i /Bundle::IkiWiki/
+
+    to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+When I try that command, BTW, it basically seems to find the same stuff I get when searching on the cpan web site.
+
+This happens both on Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.1
+
+Any help would be greatly appreciated... --kent
+
+> Bundle::IkiWiki is included in ikiwiki itself, so of course cpan.org
+> does not know about it.
+> 
+> If you can show me exactly what command you ran (the tested, working
+> commands on the parent page?) and how it failed, I can try to debug
+> your problem.
+
+Just today I noticed the "Bundle" subdirectory.  What a moron I am! :-)  Also, I misunderstood the PERL5LIB=`pwd` part -- 
+I glibly thought it indicated the sink for the installation of the modules, rather than the source, and I was running 
+the cpan command from another window in a different directory, and just spiraled down into error...
+
+> The real question in my mind is why you'd want to do this at all when
+> using Ubuntu, which incldues packages of ikiwiki and all its
+> dependencies. --[[Joey]]
+
+For ubuntu 8.04: 
+
+    $ ikiwiki --version
+    ikiwiki version 2.32.3ubuntu2.1
+    $
+
+I was just trying to get the latest version.
+
+In any case, thanks for the help, and thanks for the superb software.  I really like it a lot.
+
+---
+
+## Prerequisite modules not found for non-root user
+Hi, I'm a non-root user trying to use IkiWiki on an academic webserver with Perl 5.8.8 but several missing modules, so I grab them from CPAN (edited):
+
+    cd ~; PERL5LIB=`pwd`/ikiwiki:`pwd`/ikiwiki/cpan:`pwd`/lib/perl5 PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1 perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install("Bundle::IkiWiki")'
+
+That puts a lot of files in ~/.cpan. Then when I go into the directory where I untarred IkiWiki and try to run the Perl makefile:
+
+    cd ~/ikiwiki; perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$HOME/ikiwiki
+
+I get warnings that all the modules needed were not found:
+
+Warning: prerequisite CGI::FormBuilder  not found.
+Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Date::Parse 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite HTML::Scrubber 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite HTML::Template 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Mail::Sendmail 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Text::Markdown 0 not found.
+
+CORRECTION 1: I played around with CPAN and got the installation to the point of succeeding with >99% of tests in "make test".
+
+> What was the magic CPAN rune that worked for you? --[[Joey]] 
+
+An attempt of "make install" failed while trying to put files in /etc/IkiWiki but per the output's instructions, I reran "make install" and that seemed to work, until this error, which doesn't seem to be satisfiable:
+
+    Warning: You do not have permissions to install into /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 114.
+    Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki.pm
+    mkdir /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 176
+
+Any suggestions? Whew!
+
+> When you build ikiwiki, try doing it like this to make it
+> install to your home directory. Then you can run `~/bin/ikiwiki`
+> --[[Joey]] 
+
+	perl Makefile.PL INSTALL_BASE=$HOME PREFIX=
+	make
+	make install