X-Git-Url: http://git.vanrenterghem.biz/git.ikiwiki.info.git/blobdiff_plain/d80d029587c5685e2cb420ab0d5605576bdde534..486076c94367a40ff6a5e2476d98b87cd8d64f96:/doc/todo/adding_new_pages_by_using_the_web_interface.mdwn diff --git a/doc/todo/adding_new_pages_by_using_the_web_interface.mdwn b/doc/todo/adding_new_pages_by_using_the_web_interface.mdwn index a66670519..9a502a852 100644 --- a/doc/todo/adding_new_pages_by_using_the_web_interface.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/adding_new_pages_by_using_the_web_interface.mdwn @@ -1 +1,79 @@ -Perhaps I'm just too stupid to find the proper way to do this, but how would I add a new page to the wiki without selecting to edit an already installed one and frobbing the URL to direct to the to-be-created page? +Perhaps I'm just too stupid to find the proper way to do this, but how +would I add a new page to the wiki without selecting to edit an already +installed one and frobbing the URL to direct to the to-be-created page? +--[[ThomasSchwinge]] + +Good point. Of course one way is to start with creating a link to the page, +which also helps prevent orphans. But other wikis based on CGI do have this +a bit easier, since they can detect an attempt to access a nonexistant page +and show an edit page. Ikiwiki can't do that (unless its web server is +configured to do smart things on a 404, like maybe call ikiwiki.cgi which +could be modified to work as a smart 404 -> edit handler). + +> Since this todo was opened, the [[plugins/404]] plugin has been added; +> it does exactly that. Only if you have Apache, at the moment, though. --[[smcv]] + +Some wikis also provide a UI means for creating a new page. If we can find +something good, that can be added to ikiwiki's UI. --[[Joey]] + +Hmm, maybe just a preprocessor directive that creates a form inside a page, +like is used for blog posting already would suffice? Then the main page of +a wiki could have a form for adding new pages, if that directive were +included there. Won't work for subpages though, unless the directive were +added to the parent page. However, unconnected subpages are surely an even +rarer thing to want than unconnected top level pages. --[[Joey]] + +> Here is a simple plugin that does that. Perhaps options could be added to +> it, but I couldn't really think of any. +> +> -- JamesWestby + +> For what it's worth, the following works: +> `\[[!inline pages=!* rss=no atom=no postform=yes postformtext="Add a new page titled:"]]` +> Add `rootpage=/` if you do this in `index.mdwn` to avoid creating subpages. +> --[[JeremieKoenig]] + + +Maybe a very simple PHP frontend for serving the +statically generated pages, that would display a page editing form or +something like that for non-existent pages, wouldn't be too bad a thing +and resource hog? Just a thought... --[[Tuomov]] + +---- + +A quick round-up of how other wikis address this problem: + + * mediawiki *used* to Offer a search box with two buttons: 'Go' + and 'Search'. 'Go' brought you to a page with the name you + typed if it exists, and searches otherwise. In the latter case, + you get a link like this at the top of the search results: + +> *There is no page titled "Testing". You can create this page.* + + * wikia mediawikis have an "add a page" button that pops-up a JS + pseudo-window asking for a page name. On submission, you end + up at an edit window for the page. + * wikipedia now makes it quite hard to create new pages. The old + 'go' button is gone, nearly all search terms end up at an actual + article, a "no results" match does not have helpful create link + options. + * Moin Moin has a two-button search: "Titles" and "Text". Neither + offer a "create page" option for 0-match searches. + * the original c2.com wiki has no helpful link for this either. + +So - the direction of travel would appear to be *away* from having +"new page" functionality. + +I would suggest the following for ikiwiki: + + * Extend the search results page to include a "create this page" link, + perhaps toggleable, perhaps only if the search term matches some + criteria for what makes a sensible page name + * Some combination of JamesWestby's "create" plugin, extracting the + current stuff inside [[plugins/inline]] (see also: + [[more flexible inline postform]]) -- more generally, rationalising + where that code lives so it can be used in more contexts. + * documenting the `inline` hack above (which I use extensively on my + private wikis, by the way!) as a [[tip|tips]]. + +-- [[Jon]]