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@@ -12,6 +12,10 @@ For now, I want to try and resolve the issues with net\_ssl\_test, and run more
 > ikiwiki) performing any sanity checking of the openid server. All the
 > security authentication goes on between your web browser and the openid
 > server. This may involve ssl, or not.
+>
+>> Note that I'm not an openid expert, and the above may need to be taken
+>> with a grain of salt. I also can make no general statements about openid
+>> being secure. ;-) --[[Joey]]
 > 
 > For example, my openid is "http://joey.kitenet.net/". If I log in with
 > this openid, ikiwiki connects to that http url to determine what openid
@@ -34,3 +38,48 @@ For now, I want to try and resolve the issues with net\_ssl\_test, and run more
 >> for use by ikiwiki and the rest is simple.
 
 >> -- Brian May
+
+>>> I guess that the place to add SSL cert checking would be in either
+>>> [[!cpan LWPx::ParanoidAgent]] or [[!cpan Net::OpenID::Consumer]]. Adding
+>>> it to ikiwiki itself, which is just a user of those libraries, doesn't
+>>> seem right.
+>>> 
+>>> It's not particularly clear to me how a SSL cert can usefully be
+>>> checked at this level, where there is no way to do anything but
+>>> succeed, or fail; and where the extent of the check that can be done is
+>>> that the SSL cert is issued by a trusted party and matches the domain name
+>>> of the site being connected to. I also don't personally think that SSL
+>>> certs are the right fix for DNS poisoning issues. --[[Joey]]
+
+I was a bit vague myself on the details on openid. So I looked up the standard.
+I was surprised to note that they have already considered these issues, in
+section 15.1.2, <http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor41>.
+
+It says:
+
+"Using SSL with certificates signed by a trusted authority prevents these kinds of
+attacks by verifying the results of the DNS look-up against the certificate. Once
+the validity of the certificate has been established, tampering is not possible.
+Impersonating an SSL server requires forging or stealing a certificate, which is
+significantly harder than the network based attacks."
+
+With regards to implementation, I am surprised that the libraries don't seem to
+do this checking, already, and by default. Unfortunately, I am not sure how to test
+this adequately, see [[!debbug 466055]]. -- Brian May
+
+--- 
+
+I think [[!cpan Crypt::SSLeay]] already supports checking the certificate. The trick
+is to get [[!cpan LWP::UserAgent]], which is used by [[!cpan LWPx::ParanoidAgent]] to
+enable this checking.
+
+I think the trick is to set one of the the following environment variables before retrieving
+the data:
+
+$ENV{HTTPS\_CA\_DIR} = "/etc/ssl/certs/";  
+$ENV{HTTPS\_CA\_FILE} = "/etc/ssl/certs/file.pem";  
+
+Unfortunately I get weird results if the certificate verification fails, see [[!debbug 503440]].
+It still seems to work though, regardless.
+
+-- Brian May