X-Git-Url: http://git.vanrenterghem.biz/git.ikiwiki.info.git/blobdiff_plain/6fed9b48d54df52ea86badb4be196a28b63e0fd3..5e9dd45f4bd500b22c25efa2e457a0f9f63db439:/doc/index/discussion.mdwn?ds=sidebyside diff --git a/doc/index/discussion.mdwn b/doc/index/discussion.mdwn index 43c180db4..f15d91c6d 100644 --- a/doc/index/discussion.mdwn +++ b/doc/index/discussion.mdwn @@ -5,54 +5,12 @@ Do so here.. Note that for more formal bug reports or todo items, you can also edit the [[bugs]] and [[todo]] pages. -# Installation/Setup questions - -I have just installed ikiwiki and it works - at least I have the example index.mdwn page -compiled and visible. However I have a few issues/problems:- - -* A couple of the 'optional' Perl modules aren't optional, you can't install ikiwiki without them, -these are HTML::Template and HTML::Scrubber (at least I think it was these two, it's a bit messy -to go back and find out). - -> You're right, HTML::Template is required. HTML::Scrubber is only required -> in the default configuration, and is optional if the htmlscrubber plugin -> is disabled. --[[Joey]] +[[toc ]] -* I don't seem to have got an ikiwiki man page created. - -> It should be installed in /usr/share/man, or a similar directory -> depending on how your perl is set up and how you did the install. -> --[[Joey]] - -> Found it, in /usr/local/share/man, since no other man pages are in either /usr/share/man or in /usr/local/share/man the ikiwiki -> man page is a bit lonely, and more to the point not on my MANPATH. Still I have found it now, I'll just move it to somewhere -> more sensible. [[Chris]] - -* Running "ikiwiki --setup ikiwiki.setup" doesn't do anything. I have edited ikiwiki.setup to -my local settings. There are no errors but neither does anything get compiled. An ikiwiki -command to explicitly do the compile works fine. Am I misunderstanding something here? - -> Further tests indicate that ikiwiki isn't seeing changed files so doesn't always rebuild. -> How does ikiwiki decide when to rebuild? I tried a full command line like "ikiwiki --verbose ikiwiki ~/public_html/ikiwiki --url=http://www.isbd.ltd.uk/~chris/ikiwiki/" and that doesn't do anything -either though it was the command line I originally used to compile. After a long interval I 'touch'ed -the files and then it *did* compile but 'touch'ing the files after a few minutes only doesn't seem to force a recompile. I'm even more confused! - -> ikiwiki only compiles files whose modification times have changed. It -> should see any change made as close as a second after the last compile. -> When run with --setup, ikiwiki always rebuilds every file in the wiki. If -> --setup is not working, you must have it pointed at the wrong path or -> something; you can pass -v to see what it's doing. I don't know why it -> would not see recently changed files; you could try stracing it. -> --[[Joey]] - -> OK, thanks, I don't quite know what was happening before but it seems to be working right now. -> --[[Chris]] - ->> Weird. I wish I knew what happened, but as it's working now, I'm ->> guessing some kind of user error was involved. --[[Joey]] +# Installation/Setup questions -* I wish there was a mailing list, much easier for this sort of stuff than this, apart from -anything else I get to use a decent editor. +(I've moved HarleyPig's problem to its [[own_page|bugs/xgettext_issue]] +--[[Joey]]) ---- # Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site? @@ -85,40 +43,6 @@ easily, perl is possible (but I'm not strong in perl). ---- -# OpenID - -I just figured I'd edit something on the page with my OpenID, since you've implemented it! --*[Kyle](http://kitenet.net/~kyle/)*= - -> Kyle, If you like openid, I can switch your personal wiki over to use your openid. --[[Joey]] - ----- - -# ACL - -> Moved to [[todo/ACL]] --[[Joey]] - ----- - -Some questions about the RecentChanges function. -- Ethan - -> (Moved to [[todo/recentchanges]] --[[Joey]]) - ----- - -Also, I'd like to request another template parameter which is just -$config{url}. That way you won't have to hard-code the URL of the wiki into -the template. -- Ethan - -> That's already available in the BASEURL parameter. --[[Joey]] - ----- - -# Canonical feed location? - -Moved to [[todo/canonical_feed_location]] --[[Joey]] - ----- - # asciidoc or txt2tags ? Any plugins or support for using asciidoc or txt2tags as the wiki language and/or exporting to asciidoc or txt2tags? @@ -144,6 +68,8 @@ Any plugins or support for exporting to LaTeX? >> >> --JeremyReed +>>> Have a look at [pandoc](http://code.google.com/p/pandoc/). It can make PDFs via pdflatex. --[[roktas]] + ---- # Using with CVS? @@ -182,63 +108,83 @@ Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form ---- -# Disable sub-discussion pages? +# Access Keys -Moved to [[bugs]] -- [[Joey]] +Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other +wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an +accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those +actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts? +--[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com) + +> Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at +> into account. + +>> Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to +>> in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a +>> a user complaint recently that Alt-e in oddmuse was overriding his access +>> to the browser menu. ---- -# Textile Plugin +# Editing the style sheet. -It was trivial, but I put together a plugin that uses the Textile markup -language, which I find to be the most superior of the various options for -that sort of thing. Where or how do I submit it for inclusion? +It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it. +Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com) -> You can post it to [[plugins/contrib]]. --[[Joey]] +> I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets file upload support, +> it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed +> extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is +> probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would +> be filtered out of any regular page in ikiwiki). --[[Joey]] ->> Thanks. I tried using the "Add new post" form there, but apparently made a [mess of things somehow](http://ikiwiki.kitenet.net/contrib/textile___40__third-party_plugin__41__.html). Sorry about that. +>> I hadn't thought of that at all. It's a common feature and one I've +>> relied on safely, because the wikis I am maintaining at the moment +>> are all private and restricted to trusted users. Given that the whole +>> point of ikiwiki is to be able to access and edit via the shell as +>> well as the web, I suppose the features doesn't add a lot. By the +>> way, the w3m mode is brilliant. I haven't tried it yet, but the idea +>> is great. ->>> No problem, the contrib form had the wrong rootpage setting. I've fixed ->>> it up and moved it to the right place. A copyright statement would be ->>> nice. +---- -> How does one go about making a markup language added by means of a plugin, the default markup language. In other words, I would like the index page to be written in Textile. -> If I include a index.txtl (where txtl is the extension I have assigned to be handled by the textile plugin), ikiwiki will ignore it and make a new index.mdwn. +# Should not create an existing page ->> Sounds like a bug; it should be configurable via `default_pageext`, but ->> I suspect that currently if there are two competing files with different ->> extensions that make the same page, they fight it out and some random ->> one "wins" ->> ->> Until I fix that, you can avoid the one from the underlay directory by ->> setting `underlaydir` to point to an empty directory. --[[Joey]] ->> ->> Ok, fixed (in svn), it will now prefer files in the srcdir over files ->> in the underlaydir that build the same page, no matter what extension. +This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first. +Clicking on an old "?" or going to a create link but new Markdown content exists, should not go into "create" mode, but should do a regular "edit". ->>> Thanks, Joey, much appreciated. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com) +> I belive that currently it does a redirect to the new static web page. +> At least that's the intent of the code. --[[Joey]] + +>> Try at your site: `?page=discussion&from=index&do=create` +>> It brings up an empty textarea to start a new webpage -- even though it already exists here. --reed + +>>> Ah, right. Notice that the resulting form allows saving the page as +>>> discussion, or users/discussion, but not index/discussion, since this +>>> page already exists. If all the pages existed, it would do the redirect +>>> thing. --[[Joey]] ---- -# Access Keys +# User database tools? -Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other -wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an -accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those -actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts? ---[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com) +Any tool to view user database? ----- +Any tool to edit the user database? -# Editing the style sheet. +> No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to +> list all users in the user database: -It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it. -Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com) + joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo' + http://joey.kitenet.net/ + foo ----- +> To list each user's email address: -# Disable build/install requirement on PerlMagick + joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo' + + joey@kitenet.net -Some installs of PerlMagick require X11. I tried to first disable using "img" by using "--disable-plugin img" -in the Makefile. But still failed. My workaround was to remove "img" from the bundle in IkiWiki/Plugin/goodstuff.pm -before building. What is the recommended way to install ikiwiki without "img" support? --[[JeremyReed]] \ No newline at end of file +> Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store(). +> I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed +> to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time. +> --[[Joey]]