X-Git-Url: http://git.vanrenterghem.biz/git.ikiwiki.info.git/blobdiff_plain/677c6bf76d572648e04e456536a2f83f1a689f92..5e5f60278250330a29e4bbc9b5bf91cc8e7eddf8:/doc/news/openid/discussion.mdwn?ds=sidebyside diff --git a/doc/news/openid/discussion.mdwn b/doc/news/openid/discussion.mdwn index 29b373b60..bc9856ad9 100644 --- a/doc/news/openid/discussion.mdwn +++ b/doc/news/openid/discussion.mdwn @@ -1,3 +1,96 @@ -I think that I have logged in using openid! But I think the login page could use some adjustemnts. +I think that I have logged in using openid! But I think the login page +could use some adjustemnts. -Perhaps the openid stuff should be seperate, unless I was supposed to login as well. Also have I just created an account on this wiki as well? \ No newline at end of file +Perhaps the openid stuff should be seperate, unless I was supposed to login +as well. Also have I just created an account on this wiki as well? + +> The idea is that you fill in one or the other but not both. If it's +> switched to only openid, it's much clearer, since the +> username/password/register stuff disappears from the form. +> +> If both login methods are enabled, it's limited to using one form for +> both though... +> +> By signing in with openid, you have created an account on the wiki; you +> can configure it to eg, subscribe your email address to changes to pages. +> --[[Joey]] + +OK, my openid login works too. One question though, is there a setup parameter which controls whether new registrations are permitted at all? For instance, I'm thinking that I'd like to use the wiki format for content, but I don't want it editable by anyone who isn't already set up. Does this work? --[[Tim Lavoie]] + +---- + +# How to ban an IP address? + +There is a way to ban ikiwiki users, but how to ban an IP address? +For example if a bitchy anonymous is bombing our poll. I can use +only Apache/iptables rules for this? Maybe it's related to +[[ACL|todo/ACL]] request? --[[Paweł|ptecza]] + +> Well, the polls are not something I would worry about much. I do plan to +> add_IP_range_banning, although I expect to wait until +> there's a demonstrated need. --[[Joey]] + +>> Heh, do you really want a lot of spam of me? ;) + +>> It was only an example of banning reason. Recently I've read about +>> problems of Wikipedia with the vandals from Qatar. They demolished +>> Qatar Wikipedia pages and the admins of Wikipedia had to ban all +>> IP addresses of that country (fortunately Qatar has only one ISP). +>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]] + +---- + +## Error voting + +> Error: /srv/web/ikiwiki.info/todo/Configurable_minimum_length_of_log_message_for_web_edits/index.html independently created, not overwriting with version from todo/Configurable_minimum_length_of_log_message_for_web_edits + +[[users/jon]] + +---- + +### Logging Out + +If I've logged in by OpenID, how do I log out? I don't see any logout +button anywhere on IkiWiki. (is it because I hit "forever" for my OpenID authorization duration?) +> No, it's because it's on the preferences page! That's somewhat non-obvious... + +>> This is a problem with having a static wiki. If I just put "Logout" as +>> an action on every page, that will look weird if you're not logged in. +>> --[[Joey]] + +Even if IkiWiki does let me log out, how do I *stay* logged out? Let's say I'm using a kiosk. What's to prevent someone else from hitting my OpenID service right after I've walked away? My OpenID service will just auth the login again, won't it? --[[sabr]] (behavior seems to vary... does it depend on the OpenID service? guess I have some docs to read.) + +> If you're at a kiosk, you'll need to log out of your openid provider too. +> Or use a provider that doesn't use cookies to keep you logged in. (Or +> don't check the box that makes your provider set a cookie when you log in.) +> +> AFAIK openid doesn't have single signoff capabilities yet. --[[Joey]] + +I'm having a problem using my preferred openid. I have +http://thewordnerd.info configured as a delegate to +thewordnerd.myopenid.com. It works fine on Lighthouse, Slicehost and +everywhere else I've used it. Here, though, if I use the delegate I'm sent +to my openid identity URL on myopenid.com. If I use the identity URL +directly, I get the verification page. + +Is my delegation broken in some way that works for all these other apps but +which fails here? Or is something broken in Ikiwiki's implementation? + +> I guess this is the same issue filed by you at +> [[bugs/OpenID_delegation_fails_on_my_server]] --[[Joey]] + +Yes. I'd only recently set up my server as a delegate under wordpress, so still thought that perhaps the issue was on my end. But I'd since used my delegate successfully elsewhere, so I filed it as a bug against ikiwiki. + +---- +###Pretty Painless +I just tried logging it with OpenID and it Just Worked. Pretty painless. If you want to turn off password authentication on ikiwiki.info, I say go for it. --[[blipvert]] + +> I doubt I will. The new login interface basically makes password login +> and openid cooexist nicely. --[[Joey]] + +###LiveJournal openid +One caveat to the above is that, of course, OpenID is a distributed trust system which means you do have to think about the trust aspect. A case in point is livejournal.com whose OpenID implementation is badly broken in one important respect: If a LiveJournal user deletes his or her journal, and a different user registers a journal with the same name (this is actually quite a common occurrence on LiveJournal), they in effect inherit the previous journal owner's identity. LiveJournal does not even have a mechanism in place for a remote site even to detect that a journal has changed hands. It is an extremely dodgy situation which they seem to have *no* intention of fixing, and the bottom line is that the "identity" represented by a *username*.livejournal.com token should not be trusted as to its long-term uniqueness. Just FYI. --[[blipvert]] + +---- + +Submitting bugs in the OpenID components will be difficult if OpenID must be working first...