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@@ -1,3 +1,6 @@
+[[!template id=gitbranch branch=anderbubble/edittemplate author="Jonathon Anderson"]]
+[[!tag wishlist patch]]
+
 I use a default template for all new pages:
 
     \[[!meta title="<TMPL_VAR name>"]]
@@ -10,4 +13,75 @@ This encourages me to include useful metadata on the page.  In particular, thoug
 
 I've also noticed that IkiWiki seems to use the creation time for the generated page for the page date.  This means that when I do a rebuild, `inline`d pages get shuffled.  The inclusion of a `time` variable in `edittemplate` (and in a `meta` declaration for all such pages) prevents the date from changing unexpectedly.
 
-I've already made these changes in my installation, and have made my patches available in the `edittemplate` branch of my repository, which [[I've posted|git]].
+I've already made these changes in my installation, and have made my patches available in the `edittemplate` branch of git://civilfritz.net/ikiwiki.git.
+
+Changes to the structure of `$pagestate{$registering_page}{edittemplate}{$pagespec}` mean that a `cgi` rebuild is necessary (for reasons I don't entirely understand); but I think that's preferable to creating an entirely separate `$pagestate` namespace for storing parameters.  That said, I'm not really a perl programmer, so corrections are welcome.
+
+> I like this patch. I hate seeing things I've already read get marked as unread in my rss feed. -- [[JoshBBall]]
+
+>> (I don't have commit access so take this with a pinch of salt -
+>> I'm just trying to help deal with the code-review backlog.)
+>>
+>> I mostly like the first and third patches in the branch (adding v4
+>> (random) UUIDs, and adding the timestamps). I'd be tempted to rename
+>> `time` and `formatted_time` to `iso_time` and `time`, but that's
+>> a matter of taste, and perhaps people with commit access have
+>> stronger opinions one way or another. I haven't researched
+>> whether there's precendent for any particular naming style
+>> elsewhere in ikiwiki.
+>>
+>> The UUID bit would require adding some reference to libuuid-tiny-perl
+>> to the Debian packaging - I think a `Recommends` is too strong
+>> but a `Suggests` seems OK.
+>>
+>> I don't like the second patch (adding URL-namespaced UUID support).
+>> I'm having a hard time thinking of any situation in which a v4 UUID
+>> would be unsuitable, which means it's unnecessary complexity.
+>> FYI, the reason that it makes a rebuild is necessary is that
+>> you've restructured `$pagestate`, which is carried over from one
+>> refresh to the next (that's its purpose), and you haven't
+>> built in any migration or backwards-compatibility code that will
+>> cope with it being in the old format. My inclination would be to
+>> drop that patch. If there's a really good reason to prefer
+>> v3/v5 UUIDs, please describe it and I'll try to suggest some
+>> better way based on that, maybe global configuration in `$config`.
+>> --[[smcv]]
+
+>>> [[!template id=gitbranch branch=smcv/ready/edittemplate2
+  browse=http://git.pseudorandom.co.uk/smcv/ikiwiki.git/shortlog/refs/heads/ready/edittemplate2
+  author="Jonathon Anderson, [[smcv]]"]]
+>>> Here is a version of that branch that I [[would merge|users/smcv/ready]] if I could.
+>>> Changes since Jonathon's version:
+>>>
+>>> * only generate a UUID if needed
+>>> * read `/proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid` instead of using [[!cpan UUID::Tiny]]
+>>>   if available, to avoid the dependency on at least Linux
+>>> * remove v3/v5 UUID support since I don't really see the point,
+>>>   and if included, it would need a migration path for `$pagestate`
+>>> * use RFC 3339 time format for `time` to make the timezone unambiguous
+>>> * add `html_time` which is the output of `IkiWiki::displaytime`, e.g.
+>>>   a `<time>` element on HTML5 wikis
+>>>
+>>> I'm not entirely sure what the use-case is for `formatted_time`,
+>>> so perhaps either `html_time` or `formatted_time` should be
+>>> removed; but it's not as if they really cost anything.
+>>>
+>>> There doesn't seem to be any strong convention for how we name
+>>> timestamp variables/objects, so I left the naming as it was.
+>>>
+>>> --[[smcv]]
+
+>>>> the ready/edittemplate branch looks good to me too. `formatted_time` and
+>>>> `html_time` probably don't hurt, but personally i'd not add either and
+>>>> instead expose displaytime as a directive, for otherwise migrating to
+>>>> html5 would leave old evaluations of displaytime around in the repository.
+>>>> (example template: `\[[!meta date="<TMPL_VAR time>"]]I wrote this post at
+>>>> \[[!displaytime "<TMPL_VAR time>"]]`). --[[chrysn]]
+
+>>>>> That's a very good point; and Joey added `\[[!date "<TMPL_VAR time">]]`,
+>>>>> which does the same thing as your hypothetical `\[[!displaytime]]`,
+>>>>> almost 5 years ago. Branch replaced by `smcv/ready/edittemplate2`
+>>>>> which drops `formatted_time` and `html_time`, and adds a suggestion
+>>>>> to use `\[[!date]]`. --[[smcv]]
+
+>>>>>> [[merged|done]] --[[smcv]]