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@@ -10,6 +10,9 @@ and show an edit page. Ikiwiki can't do that (unless its web server is
 configured to do smart things on a 404, like maybe call ikiwiki.cgi which
 could be modified to work as a smart 404 -> edit handler).
 
+> Since this todo was opened, the [[plugins/404]] plugin has been added;
+> it does exactly that. Only if you have Apache, at the moment, though. --[[smcv]]
+
 Some wikis also provide a UI means for creating a new page. If we can find
 something good, that can be added to ikiwiki's UI. --[[Joey]]
 
@@ -20,7 +23,57 @@ included there. Won't work for subpages though, unless the directive were
 added to the parent page. However, unconnected subpages are surely an even
 rarer thing to want than unconnected top level pages. --[[Joey]]
 
+> Here is a simple plugin that does that. Perhaps options could be added to
+> it, but I couldn't really think of any.
+> <http://jameswestby.net/scratch/create.diff>
+> -- JamesWestby
+
+> For what it's worth, the following works:  
+> `\[[!inline pages=!* rss=no atom=no postform=yes postformtext="Add a new page titled:"]]`  
+> Add `rootpage=/` if you do this in `index.mdwn` to avoid creating subpages.
+> --[[JeremieKoenig]]
+
+
 Maybe a very simple PHP frontend for serving the
 statically generated pages, that would display a page editing form or
 something like that for non-existent pages, wouldn't be too bad a thing
 and resource hog? Just a thought... --[[Tuomov]]
+
+----
+
+A quick round-up of how other wikis address this problem:
+
+ * mediawiki *used* to Offer a search box with two buttons: 'Go'
+   and 'Search'.  'Go' brought you to a page with the name you
+   typed if it exists, and searches otherwise.  In the latter case,
+   you get a link like this at the top of the search results:
+
+> *There is no page titled "Testing". You can create this page.*
+
+ * wikia mediawikis have an "add a page" button that pops-up a JS
+   pseudo-window asking for a page name. On submission, you end
+   up at an edit window for the page.
+ * wikipedia now makes it quite hard to create new pages. The old
+   'go' button is gone, nearly all search terms end up at an actual
+   article, a "no results" match does not have helpful create link
+   options.
+ * Moin Moin has a two-button search: "Titles" and "Text".  Neither
+   offer a "create page" option for 0-match searches.
+ * the original c2.com wiki has no helpful link for this either.
+
+So - the direction of travel would appear to be *away* from having
+"new page" functionality.
+
+I would suggest the following for ikiwiki:
+
+ * Extend the search results page to include a "create this page" link,
+   perhaps toggleable, perhaps only if the search term matches some
+   criteria for what makes a sensible page name
+ * Some combination of JamesWestby's "create" plugin, extracting the
+   current stuff inside [[plugins/inline]] (see also:
+   [[more flexible inline postform]]) -- more generally, rationalising
+   where that code lives so it can be used in more contexts.
+ * documenting the `inline` hack above (which I use extensively on my
+   private wikis, by the way!) as a [[tip|tips]].
+
+-- [[Jon]]