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 > [[bugs/OpenID_delegation_fails_on_my_server]] --[[Joey]]
 
 Yes. I'd only recently set up my server as a delegate under wordpress, so still thought that perhaps the issue was on my end. But I'd since used my delegate successfully elsewhere, so I filed it as a bug against ikiwiki.
+
+----
+###Pretty Painless
+I just tried logging it with OpenID and it Just Worked.  Pretty painless.  If you want to turn off password authentication on ikiwiki.info, I say go for it. --[[blipvert]]
+
+> I doubt I will. The new login interface basically makes password login
+> and openid cooexist nicely. --[[Joey]] 
+
+###LiveJournal openid
+One caveat to the above is that, of course, OpenID is a distributed trust system which means you do have to think about the trust aspect.  A case in point is livejournal.com whose OpenID implementation is badly broken in one important respect:  If a LiveJournal user deletes his or her journal, and a different user registers a journal with the same name (this is actually quite a common occurrence on LiveJournal), they in effect inherit the previous journal owner's identity.  LiveJournal does not even have a mechanism in place for a remote site even to detect that a journal has changed hands.  It is an extremely dodgy situation which they seem to have *no* intention of fixing, and the bottom line is that the "identity" represented by a *username*.livejournal.com token should not be trusted as to its long-term uniqueness.  Just FYI.  --[[blipvert]]
+
+----
+
+Submitting bugs in the OpenID components will be difficult if OpenID must be working first...
+
+------
+
+# Privacy and Decentralization
+
+Maybe I don't understand OpenID well enough, but it looks like there are just few providers, most
+of which are huge companies or belong to such, and I don't trust them to verify me identity
+or to not track all my logins. I'll use OpenID only if I can make my own home server
+be my OpenID provider, and if doing so doesn't interfere with the design and security and
+privacy of OpenID, and doesn't require me to use centrally-signed certificates or pay to some
+company or anything like that.
+
+Is it possible to use OpenID in a way keeping the user in full control and allowing any user to
+have their personal provider without damaging the architecture behind OpenID?
+
+I'm worried, at least until the issue is cleared.
+
+-- [[fr33domlover]]
+
+> You can install an OpenID provider on your own server and use that if you
+> wish. I believe you will need an SSL certificate that `ikiwiki.info` trusts.
+> -- [[Jon]]
+
+----
+
+This poll is now 8 years old. Do we have enough data to make a decision?
+Can we consider adding `open=no` to the poll? -- [[Jon]]
+
+----
+
+I vote against disabling password logins until my OpenID will work on [ikiwiki.info](/)!
+See [[/plugins/openid/troubleshooting]]. -- Chap