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@@ -37,3 +37,49 @@ I think it would be a good idea to think about the standard layout style of ikiw
 > `auto.setup` and `auto-blog.setup` could have different defaults,
 > or allow a theme to be picked as [Branchable](http://branchable.com/)
 > does. Perhaps actiontabs for auto-blog and default for wikis? --[[Joey]]
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+Is it still Joey's opinion that ikiwiki.info should remain using the anti-theme?                                       
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+I'd like to make one last, clear petition to move ikiwiki.info to using the actiontabs                                 
+theme. Rationale below.                                                                                                
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+I wanted to just ask one last time if that was still the case. I've been considering                                   
+picking back up my ikiwiki hacking efforts,  as well as thinking about my personal use                                 
+of ikiwiki, and I was privately pondering on the health of the project. IMHO, it's not                                 
+great unfortunately, and we could use more contributors. I feel that the anti-theme on                                 
+ikiwiki.info is putting off potential users and thus potential contributors. The                                       
+actiontabs theme would be a better "advert" for ikiwiki: a better demonstration of what                                
+you *could* do with it, and I think that's an important function of the site. I think                                  
+people might come across ikiwiki.info whilst looking for basic information on the project                              
+and be put off by the anti-theme.                                                                                      
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+Honestly, I also find it hard to read information on the site due to the anti-theme (yes,                              
+the default font face and size etc. are my own brower's preferences, but I sometimes use                               
+browsers on other machines that I have not configured), including the wide (lack of)                                   
+content margins, and prefer to interact with it (generally) using local clones.                                        
+(I've just made *this* edit this way, but actually because the login process via email                                 
+seems to be broken for edit/preview workflow. I might investigate/file about that later.)                              
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+I wonder if someone feels the same, since you defaulted to actiontabs on branchable.                                   
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+Thanks, [[users/Jon]]. (2017-12-28)
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+9 month ping, does [[Joey]] or [[smcv]] have any kind of opinion on this matter,
+subsequent to my last comment? I ask because both of your takes on the issue are from
+way back in 2011. — [[Jon]] (2018-09-24)
+
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+
+saw this "typesetter CSS" and was reminded of the anti-theme (and my 18 month old appeal to revisit that decision):
+[typesetter-css](https://screwtapello.gitlab.io/typesetter-css/example/demo.html):
+
+> HTML is a semantic markup language, but web-browsers' default presentation of semantic HTML is more based on compatibility with decades-old browsers than with readability. There are browser-addons that will take a page, strip out the presentational markup and try to present the result in a readable format, but that shouldn't be necessary if you've got sensible semantic markup to begin with.
+> 
+> Typesetter.css is a custom stylesheet designed to present generic, semantic HTML in the most readable way possible.
+
+The readability problems with unstyled HTML that this project talks about are exactly why I think the anti-theme
+as default for the main site should be revisited. — [[Jon]] (2019-08-16)