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 > would be subject to the usual comment filtering (ie, blogspam) and
 > moderation and would then show up amoung the other, regular comments on
 > the page.
+>
+> (One wrinkle: would need to guard against duplicate pings. Maybe by
+> checking existing comments for any that have the same url?)
 > 
 > As for sending trackbacks and pingbacks, this could fairly easily be
 > implemented using a `editcontent` hook. Since this hook is called
 > whenever a page is posted or edited, and gets the changed content, it can
 > simply scan it for urls (may have to htmlize first?), and send pings to
 > all urls found. --[[Joey]] 
+
+>> Is there any update on this? This would be highly useful and is the main reason why I am not using my blog more regularly, yet. (And yes, now that git-annex is doing everything I need and more, I thought I should revisit this one, as well). -- RichiH
+
+----
+
+Happy 9th anniversary, bug!
+
+For whatever reason I was compelled to look at this situation afresh. I've
+added some instrumentation to my own site to see whether there's any external
+attempts to issue pingbacks to my own site, to gauge whether it's worthwhile
+spending any more time on this. But it looks like pingback in the wider world
+might be dead or dying.
+
+[I started a conversation on Twitter with the inventor of Pingback to see what
+he thought](https://twitter.com/jmtd/status/1042730998839107585). He suggested
+taking a look at "webmentions". here's some preliminary reading on those:
+
+ * <https://indieweb.org/Webmention>
+ * <https://kryogenix.org/days/2014/11/29/enabling-webmentions/>
+ * <https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2014/11/30/vouching-for-webmentions-hashing-for-vouches/>
+
+At this point I don't know if webmentions actually has more traction than pingback,
+but the key issue I guess is whether it's growing. I'm going to (but am yet to) add
+corresponding instrumentation to my site to try and track that, too.
+-- [[Jon]] (2018-09-24)