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@@ -153,6 +153,14 @@ Any thoughts on this?
 >> basewiki, which seems like it should be pretty easy to do, and would be
 >> a great demo! --[[Joey]]
 >>
+>>> I have a complete translation of basewiki into danish, and am working with
+>>> others on preparing one in german.  For a complete translated user
+>>> experience, however, you will also need templates translated (there are a few
+>>> translatable strings there too).  My not-yet-merged po4a Markdown improvements
+>>> (see [bug#530574](http://bugs.debian.org/530574)) correctly handles multiple
+>>> files in a single PO which might be relevant for template translation handling.
+>>> --[[JonasSmedegaard]]
+>>
 >>> I've merged your changes into my own branch, and made great
 >>> progress on the various todo items. Please note my repository
 >>> location has changed a few days ago, my user page was updated
@@ -360,12 +368,50 @@ daring a timid "please pull"... or rather, please review again :)
 > * What's the reasoning behind checking that the link plugin
 >   is enabled? AFAICS, the same code in the scan hook should
 >   also work when other link plugins like camelcase are used.
+>> 
+>> That's right, fixed.
+>> 
 > * In `pagetemplate` there is a comment that claims the code
 >   relies on `genpage`, but I don't see how it does; it seems
 >   to always add a discussion link?
+>> 
+>> It relies on IkiWiki::Render's `genpage` as this function sets the
+>> `discussionlink` template param iff it considers a discussion link
+>> should appear on the current page. That's why I'm testing
+>> `$template->param('discussionlink')`.
+>> 
+>>> Maybe I was really wondering why it says it could lead to a broken
+>>> link if the cgiurl is disabled. I think I see why now: Discussionlink
+>>> will be set to a link to an existing disucssion page, even if cgi is
+>>> disabled -- but there's no guarantee of a translated discussion page
+>>> existing in that case. *However*, htmllink actually checks
+>>> for this case, and will avoid generating a broken link so AFAICS, the
+>>> comment is actually innacurate.. what will really happen in this case
+>>> is discussionlink will be set to a non-link translation of
+>>> "discussion". Also, I consider `$config{cgi}` and `%links` (etc)
+>>> documented parts of the plugin interface, which won't change; po could
+>>> rely on them to avoid this minor problem. --[[Joey]] 
+>>>> 
+>>>> Done in my branch. --[[intrigeri]]
+>>>> 
+>
 > * Is there any real reason not to allow removing a translation?
 >   I'm imagining a spammy translation, which an admin might not
 >   be able to fix, but could remove.
+>> 
+>> On the other hand, allowing one to "remove" a translation would
+>> probably lead to misunderstandings, as such a "removed" translation
+>> page would appear back as soon as it is "removed" (with no strings
+>> translated, though). I think an admin would be in a position to
+>> delete the spammy `.po` file by hand using whatever VCS is in use.
+>> Not that I'd really care, but I am slightly in favour of the way
+>> it currently works.
+>>
+>>> That would definitly be confusing. It sounds to me like if we end up
+>>> needing to allow web-based deletion of spammy translations, it will
+>>> need improvements to the deletion UI to de-confuse that. It's fine to
+>>> put that off until needed --[[Joey]] 
+>> 
 > * Re the meta title escaping issue worked around by `change`. 
 >   I suppose this does not only affect meta, but other things
 >   at scan time too. Also, handling it only on rebuild feels
@@ -383,4 +429,26 @@ daring a timid "please pull"... or rather, please review again :)
 >  
 > --[[Joey]] 
 >> 
+>> I'll think about it soon.
+>> 
 >> --[[intrigeri]]
+>>
+>>> Did you get a chance to? --[[Joey]] 
+
+ * As discussed at [[todo/l10n]] the templates needs to be translatable too.  They
+   should be treated properly by po4a using the markdown option - at least with my
+   later patches in [bug#530574](http://bugs.debian.org/530574)) applied.
+
+ * It seems to me that the po plugin (and possibly other parts of ikiwiki) wrongly
+   uses gettext.  As I understand it, gettext (as used currently in ikiwiki) always
+   lookup a single language, That might make sense for a single-language site, but
+   multilingual sites should emit all strings targeted at the web output in each own
+   language.
+
+   So generally the system language (used for e.g. compile warnings) should be separated
+   from both master language and slave languages.
+
+   Preferrably the gettext subroutine could be extended to pass locale as optional
+   secondary parameter overriding the default locale (for messages like "N/A" as
+   percentage in po plugin).  Alternatively (with above mentioned template support)
+   all such strings could be externalized as templates that can then be localized.