X-Git-Url: http://git.vanrenterghem.biz/git.ikiwiki.info.git/blobdiff_plain/0630d9743854acca70a5c4306a136c33e09f708d..76f925bc8e4f8f4059be13e469e6f63d7bbc3a2f:/doc/todo/blogging.mdwn?ds=inline diff --git a/doc/todo/blogging.mdwn b/doc/todo/blogging.mdwn index 7d89a9904..a31674809 100644 --- a/doc/todo/blogging.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/blogging.mdwn @@ -1,12 +1,137 @@ -- Should probably add params to control various rss fields like the blog - title, its author email, its copyright info, etc. -- The [[TODO]] page would work better if the first N were shown in full, - and then all open items were shown in summary. Maybe add this mode. -- Add Discussion and Edit links at the bottom of each inlined post. -- Still not completly comfortable with ikiwiki only knowing when a page was - posted based on the on-disk mtime the first time it sees the page. svn doesn't - preserve mtimes and also if the index gets broken it will see new mtimes for any - pages that were actually modified in the interim. I suppose that info could - be pulled out of svn log by a utility that was run if the index or mtimes - got screwed up. -- It would be possible to support rss enclosures for eg, podcasts, pretty easily. \ No newline at end of file +- It would be possible to support rss enclosures for eg, podcasts, pretty easily. + +Here is the last of those items. Using the meta plugin you can give the appropriate +info, and the enclosure will be added to the entry. It will also add a tag +at the top, but I don't know if this is necessary. It also includes a fix for +when make is used without PREFIX. + + + +-- JamesWestby + +> Hmm. Not quite how I'd envisioned podcasts would work, my idea was +> more that the sound files would be kept inside the wiki, and the +> inline plugin could be told to eg, inline *.mp3, and would add +> those to the rss feed as enclosures. Maybe you'd also inline some +> regular blog pages to describe the files or the like. + +> Do you think that would work or that it's worth pursuing that +> approach? I haven't looked at podcasts enough to know if that +> method would be technically feasable; for one thing it would limit +> the blog items for podcasts to just having an enclosure but no +> description. + +> Even if that doesn't work and pages are needed to desribe the items +> like you did, it still seems better to keep the podcast items in +> the wiki.. + +> --[[Joey]] + +That's fair enough. I'm a little unsure of how it all works, so I just did the +simplest thing I could. + +You don't need a description for podcasts it seems. So there's nothing stopping +you there. + +I have another patch that I think does what you want. It only supports .mp3 files, +.ogg or similar could be added easily. + +It has the disadvantage that the filename is all there is to go on, as I can't +think of a way to associate any information with the mp3 file. I don't +want to add a dependency on a IDv3 tag library. You could add another file +.mp3.info with the title/description in. + +It's obviously up to you which way you want to go. + + + +-- JamesWestby + +> Hmm, this could be taken a step further, and assume that if +> IkiWiki::pagetype doesn't return a defined page type for the page +> in the blog, then no matter the extension it should be fed into the +> rss feed in an enclosure. This would allow for not only podcasting, +> but vidcasting and a form of photo blogging. Or even an rss feed +> containing the source of ikiwiki. ;-) +> +> --[[Joey]] + +Yes I agree that this would be great, but rss2 spec says that enclosure +must have mime-type. How about I use the File::MimeInfo trick from the +first patch to do this? I don't know why I didn't do this before. +This will probably clean the code up a little as well. + +What do you think of the change that when using raw, if the filetype is not +known it adds an entry anyway? I did this so that the entries appear if +this mode is used. It might be that this is not necessary, as can we assume +that people wont use raw if they want to pod/vid/whatevercast? + +-- JamesWestby + +> Using File::Mimeinfo makes sense to me. + +> I think it probably makes sense to make the (html) blog page +> add an entry with a link to the file that's in the enclosure in the +> rss feed. Whether or not raw is being used. + +> Note: I'm still unsure about whether podcasts should support +> descriptions for the enclosures or not. Here's an early podcast +> that did use descriptions: +> +> Here's a contemporary podcast, which also uses descriptions: +> + +> The podcast client I use certianly doesn't care about the +> descriptions. But it's podracer, probably not the thing most +> podcast users use. :-) + +> --[[Joey]] + +I tested with amarok, and that also ignored the description. +I am thinking of those where you have a mixed feed, and people +using clients that ignore enclsures get pretty much a blank post, +with just the filename, and the html page, which also just displays +the filename. + +I don't think this is a big issue though, so I guess it's just which +you think is the cleaner interface. + +I have also added the first of your ideas as well (though you seem to have +removed it). It adds a parameter to inline `archive_after` which limits +showing full entries to that number. + + + +-- JamesWestby + +> I removed it because I don't really see the need for it anymore. +> The added complexity doesn't seem worth it, unless someone needs the +> features. --[[Joey]] + +And here is the updated podcast patch supporting any file type. + + + +-- JamesWestby + +And here is a patch for the remaining item. It adds links to the bottom of +inlined entries for edit and discuss (if they are enabled). It doesn't add +links for edit if the filetype is not known. + +The stylesheet should probably be done slightly better than I have. I just +added a bit of spacing as the links were too close to the date. I have no +skill in this area though. Perhaps you would like to use the list system +that you have for the links at the top. + + + +-- JamesWestby + +> Thanks! I did tweak the css a bit. Not totally happy with it, but pretty +> good I think. (I'll try to get to the other patches soon.) --[[Joey]] + + +--- + +I'm very happy to report that this is [[todo/done]]. Podcasting patch +applied (finally!) --[[Joey]]