>> One reason they still have my business is that their customer service has
>> been notably good; I always get a response from a human on the first try,
>> and on the first or second try from a human who understands what I'm saying
->> and is able to fix it. I've dealt with organizations not like that....
+>> and is able to fix it. With a few exceptions over the years. I've dealt with organizations not like that....
>>
>> But I included the note here because I'm sure if _they're_ doing it, there's
>> probably some nonzero number of other hosting providers where it's also
>> can't have anything but relatively luckier and unluckier choices, maybe
>> `libwww/perl` is an especially unlucky one?
+>>> Yippee! _My_ provider found their offending `mod_security` rule and took it out,
+>>> so now [ikiwiki.info](/) accepts my OpenID. I'm still not sure it wouldn't be
+>>> worthwhile to change the useragent default.... -- Chap
+
+
## Error: OpenID failure: naive_verify_failed_network: Could not contact ID provider to verify response.
Again, this could have various causes. It was helpful to bump the debug level
> To be clear, these are patches to [[!cpan LWPx::ParanoidAgent]].
> Debian's `liblwpx-paranoidagent-perl (>= 1.10-3)` appears to
> have those two patches. --[[smcv]]
+>
+> Irrelevant to this ikiwiki instance, perhaps relevant to others:
+> I've added these patches to [pkgsrc](http://www.pkgsrc.org)'s
+> [[!pkgsrc www/p5-LWPx-ParanoidAgent]] and they'll be included in the
+> soon-to-be-cut 2014Q3 branch. --[[schmonz]]
## Still naive_verify_failed_network, new improved reason
> Also in Debian's `liblwpx-paranoidagent-perl (>= 1.10-3)`, for the record.
> --[[smcv]]
+>
+> And now in pkgsrc's `www/p5-LWPx-ParanoidAgent`, FWIW. --[[schmonz]]
Only that still doesn't end the story, because that hand didn't know what
[this hand](https://github.com/noxxi/p5-io-socket-ssl/commit/4f83a3cd85458bd2141f0a9f22f787174d51d587#diff-1)
> (which is where ikiwiki.info's supporting packages come from).
> Please report it upstream too, if the Debian maintainer doesn't
> get there first. --[[smcv]]
+>
+> Applied in pkgsrc. I haven't attempted to conduct before-and-after
+> test odysseys, but here's hoping your travails save others some
+> time and effort. --[[schmonz]]
# Success!!