* [ikiwiki instance with HTML5 templates](http://natalian.org)
* [HTML5 outliner tool](http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/) -- to check you have the structure of your markup correct
+> Kai, thanks enormously for working on this. I switched a page to
+> the html5 doctype today, and was rather pleasently suprised that it
+> validated, except for the new Cache-Control meta tag. Now I see you're
+> well ahead of me. --[[Joey]]
+>
+> So, how should ikiwiki support html5? There are basically 3 approaches:
+>
+> 1. Allow users to add html5 tags to their existing xhtml pages.
+> What has been done so far, can be extended. Basically works
+> in browsers, if you don't care about standards. A good prerequisite
+> for anything else, anyway.
+> 2. Have both a html5 and a xhtml mode, allow user to select.
+> 3. Switch to html5 in eg, ikiwiki 4; users have to deal with
+> any custom markup on their pages/templates that breaks then.
+>
+> The second option seems fairly tractable from what I see here and in
+> your branch. You made only relatively minor changes to 10 templates.
+> It would probably not be too dreadful to put them in ifdefs. I've made a
+> small start at doing that.
+>
+> I've made ikiwiki use the time element and all the new semantic elements
+> in html5 mode.
+>
+> Other ideas:
+>
+> * Use details tag instead of the javascript in the toggle plugin.
+> (Need to wait on browser support probably.)
+> * Use figure and figcaption for captions in img. However, I have not
+> managed to style it to look as good as the current table+caption
+> approach.
+>
+> --[[Joey]]
+
# htmlscrubber.pm needs to not scrub new HTML5 elements
* [new elements](http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#new-elements)
+> Many added now.
+>
+> Things I left out, too hard to understand today:
+> Attributes contenteditable,
+> data-\*, draggable, role, aria-\*.
+> Tags command, keygen, output.
+>
+> Clearly unsafe: embed.
+>
+> Apparently cannot be used w/o javascript: menu.
+>
+> I have not added the new `ping` attribute, because parsing a
+> space-separeated list of urls to avoid javascript injection is annoying,
+> and the attribute seems generally dubious.
+> --[[Joey]]
+
# HTML5 Validation and t/html.t
[validator.nu](http://validator.nu/) is the authorative HTML5 validator,
schema](http://syntax.whattf.org/) using a Debian package tool
[rnv](http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/rnv.html).
+> Validation in the test suite is nice, but I am willing to lose those
+> tests for a while. --[[Joey]]
+
# HTML5 migration issues
# [article](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/semantics.html#the-article-element) element
Internet Explorer will display it as a block, though you can't seem to be able to further control the style.
-# Validator complains about no h1-h6 in header
-
-* [#509](http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=509)
+> done (needed for header too) --[[Joey]]
## Time element
au:~% grep timeformat natalian.setup
timeformat => '%Y-%m-%d',
+
+> Also, the [[plugins/relativedate]] plugin needs to be updated to
+> support relatatizing the contents of time elements. --[[Joey]]
+
+> Done and done; in html5 mode it uses the time tag, and even
+> adds pubdate when displaying ctimes. --[[Joey]]
+
+## tidy plugin
+
+Will reformat html5 to html4.
+
+----
+
+
+Ok, I consider this [[done]], at least as a first pass. Html5 mode
+is experimental, but complete enough. --[[Joey]]