> This seems to work fine if you use the profile directly as an OpenID. It doesn't seem to work with delegation. From that I can see, this is a deliberate decision by Google for security reasons. See the response [here](http://groups.google.com/group/google-federated-login-api/browse_thread/thread/825067789537568c/23451a68c8b8b057?show_docid=23451a68c8b8b057). -- [[Will]]
+### adding the GMail OpenID as an admin is unhandy
+Adding the non-human-friendly OpenID from Gmail as an admin for ikiwiki (if you haven't set up a profile with a readabe URL) is unhandy; first, you need to discover the URL, for example, by making a web edit with it (like me [here](http://source.ikiwiki.branchable.com/?p=source.git;a=search;s=https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id%3Fid%3DAItOawl3JW_Ow4xMqj98Ig1vwGx_AnjUSsgwE8E;st=author)), and then copy the URL to ikiwiki.setup. --Ivan Z.
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## historical discussion
when I login via to this wiki (or ours) via Google's OpenID, I get this error:
> I've added buttons that submit the two above URLs for logging in with a Google and Yahoo OpenID, respectively, to my locally changed OpenID login plugin.
> Using the Google profile page as the OpenID is really orthogonal to the above. --[[kaol]]
+
+>> First, I don't accept that the openid google returns from their
+>> generic signin url *has* to be so freaking ugly. For contrast,
+>> look at the openid you log in as if you use the yahoo url.
+>> <https://me.yahoo.com/joeyhess#35f22>. Nice and clean, now
+>> munged by ikiwiki to "joeyhess [me.yahoo.com]".
+>>
+>> Displaying email addresses is not really an option, because ikiwiki
+>> can't leak user email addresses like that. Displaying nicknames or
+>> usernames is, see [[todo/Separate_OpenIDs_and_usernames]].
+>>
+>> It would probably be good if the openid plugin could be configured with
+>> a list of generic openid urls, so it can add quick login buttons using
+>> those urls.
+>>
+>> The ugly google url will still be exposed here and there where
+>> a unique user id is needed. That can be avoided by not using the generic
+>> <https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id>, but instead your own profile
+>> like <http://www.google.com/profiles/joeyhess>. --[[Joey]]