+
+home$ perl -v
+
+This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux
+
+## Installation in a non-root enviroment
+I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems
+in Perl) and documented them in [[tips/Dreamhost]]. I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks. Thanks for the great app!
+
+
+## Typing error?
+
+[..] Mail::Sendmail, TimeDate, RPC::XML, [..]: should be DateTime? --[[vibrog]]
+
+> No, TimeDate and DateTime are two different CPAN modules. Ikiwiki uses
+> TimeDate. --[[Joey]]
+
+ah, i still don't fully get it, though (the following is slightly shortened):
+
+ $ perl -MCPAN -e shell
+ cpan> install DateTime
+ DateTime is up to date.
+ cpan> install TimeDate
+ Warning: Cannot install TimeDate, don't know what it is.
+ Try the command
+ i /TimeDate/
+ to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+I'm trying to build IkiWiki on a fresh OpenSuse 10.3 box. I start out with
+
+ $ perl -MCPAN -e 'install Text::Markdown URI HTML::Parser HTML::Template HTML::Scrubber'
+ $ git clone git://git.ikiwiki.info/ ikiwiki && cd ikiwiki
+ $ perl Makefile.PL && make
+
+Are there other prerequisites?
+I also installed all optional Perl modules, except TimeDate.
+
+> TimeDate is also, confusingly, known as Date::Parse. Perhaps CPAN would
+> do better with that name. --[[Joey]]
+
+good. Date::Parse was already installed. --[[vibrog]]
+
+`make` exits with `make: *** [extra_build] Aborted`, `make test` complains `cannot stat 'ikiwiki.man'` --[[vibrog]]
+
+> If you show me the actual error message, and not just the last line make
+> outputs, I might be able to help. --[[Joey]]
+
+ ..
+ rendering todo/calendar_--_archive_browsing_via_a_calendar_frontend.mdwn
+ make: *** [extra_build] Segmentation fault
+
+> So, perl on your system is segfaulting when running ikiwiki. What version
+> of perl is this, and what version of what distribution? --[[Joey]]
+
+ $ perl -V
+ Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
+ osname=linux, osvers=2.6.22, archname=i586-linux-thread-multi
+ uname='linux ravel 2.6.22 #1 smp 20070921 22:29:00 utc i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
+ config_args='-ds -e -Dprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dinstallusrbinperl -Dusethreads -Di_db -Di_dbm -Di_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Duseshrplib=true -Doptimize=-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -g -Wall -pipe'
+ hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
+ usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define usemultiplicity=define
+ useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
+ use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
+ usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
+
+Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]
+
+---
+
+I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+> Are you running perl with the environemnt settings specified on the page?
+> Can you show how it fails to find the bundle? --[[Joey]]
+
+>> I was not. Next time I build I will have to try that (I'll need to tweak it as I already override PERL5LIB; also I need to specify http proxies). Thanks for your help! -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+---
+
+##Further problems with Bundle::IkiWiki
+I'm also having trouble with finding Bundle::IkiWiki. I've tried it with the environment settings and without them, and also using the interactive
+form of the cpan command. I've also gone to cpan.org and searched -- eg
+
+ http://search.cpan.org/search?query=ikiwiki&mode=all
+
+and no Bundle for IkiWiki comes up at all.
+
+The error I get from the various cpan attempts is basically always the same:
+
+ Warning: Cannot install Bundle::IkiWiki, don't know what it is.
+ Try the command
+
+ i /Bundle::IkiWiki/
+
+ to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+When I try that command, BTW, it basically seems to find the same stuff I get when searching on the cpan web site.
+
+This happens both on Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.1
+
+Any help would be greatly appreciated... --kent
+
+> Bundle::IkiWiki is included in ikiwiki itself, so of course cpan.org
+> does not know about it.
+>
+> If you can show me exactly what command you ran (the tested, working
+> commands on the parent page?) and how it failed, I can try to debug
+> your problem.
+
+Just today I noticed the "Bundle" subdirectory. What a moron I am! :-) Also, I misunderstood the PERL5LIB=`pwd` part --
+I glibly thought it indicated the sink for the installation of the modules, rather than the source, and I was running
+the cpan command from another window in a different directory, and just spiraled down into error...
+
+> The real question in my mind is why you'd want to do this at all when
+> using Ubuntu, which incldues packages of ikiwiki and all its
+> dependencies. --[[Joey]]
+
+For ubuntu 8.04:
+
+ $ ikiwiki --version
+ ikiwiki version 2.32.3ubuntu2.1
+ $
+
+I was just trying to get the latest version.
+
+In any case, thanks for the help, and thanks for the superb software. I really like it a lot.