# Installation/Setup questions
-I ran into a problem when installing from svn. I got "invalid variable
-interpolation" errors for Wrappers.pm. I added the flag '--extract-all' to
-'po/Makefile' and 'po/t' to the xgettext line. Once I did that I was able
-to make and make test just fine. --HarleyPig
-
-> It would be helpful if you could post the actual error message you saw.
-> Also would be nice to know what versions of perl and gettext you have.
-> Perhaps your xgettext is an older version from before it natively
-> supported perl.
-> Adding --extract-all doesn't seem like a good idea, since this causes it
-> to treat every string in the entire wiki as translatable. I don't know
-> what you're talking about regarding 'po/t'. --[[Joey]]
-
->> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/www/ikiwiki/po'
->> Rebuilding the pot file
->> xgettext ../IkiWiki/CGI.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/aggregate.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/brokenlinks.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/camelcase.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/ddate.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/favicon.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/fortune.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/goodstuff.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/googlecalendar.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/haiku.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/html.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/htmlscrubber.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/htmltidy.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/httpauth.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/img.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/inline.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/linkmap.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/map.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/mdwn.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/meta.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/mirrorlist.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/openid.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/orphans.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/otl.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/pagecount.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/pagestats.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/passwordauth.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/poll.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/polygen.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/rawhtml.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/rst.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/search.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/shortcut.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/sidebar.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/skeleton.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/smiley.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/tag.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/template.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/textile.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/toc.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/toggle.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/typography.pm ../IkiWiki/Plugin/wikitext.pm ../IkiWiki/Rcs/Stub.pm ../IkiWiki/Rcs/git.pm ../IkiWiki/Rcs/mercurial.pm ../IkiWiki/Rcs/svn.pm ../IkiWiki/Rcs/tla.pm ../IkiWiki/Render.pm ../IkiWiki/Setup.pm ../IkiWiki/Setup/Standard.pm ../IkiWiki/UserInfo.pm ../IkiWiki/Wrapper.pm ../ikiwiki.in ../IkiWiki.pm -o ikiwiki.pot -Lperl --add-comments=translators ../IkiWiki/Wrapper.pm:64: invalid variable interpolation at "$"
->> make[1]: *** [ikiwiki.pot] Error 1
->> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/www/ikiwiki/po'
->> make: *** [extra_build] Error 2
->>
->> harleypig ikiwiki # xgettext --version
->>
->> xgettext (GNU gettext-tools) 0.15
->>
->> harleypig ikiwiki # perl -v
->>
->> This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i686-linux
->>
->> Sorry about the po/t report ... it was the test file I used to figure out what was wrong and I forgot to remove it. This is against the subversion repository, version 2338.
->> The referenced line has a $! variable, which the documentation for gettext indicates is the problem.
-
-I have just installed ikiwiki and it works - at least I have the example index.mdwn page
-compiled and visible. However I have a few issues/problems:-
-
-* A couple of the 'optional' Perl modules aren't optional, you can't install ikiwiki without them,
-these are HTML::Template and HTML::Scrubber (at least I think it was these two, it's a bit messy
-to go back and find out).
-
-> You're right, HTML::Template is required. HTML::Scrubber is only required
-> in the default configuration, and is optional if the htmlscrubber plugin
-> is disabled. --[[Joey]]
-
-* I don't seem to have got an ikiwiki man page created.
-
-> It should be installed in /usr/share/man, or a similar directory
-> depending on how your perl is set up and how you did the install.
-> --[[Joey]]
+Ikiwiki creates a .ikiwiki directory in my wikiwc working directory. Should I
+"svn add .ikiwiki" or add it to svn:ignore?
-> Found it, in /usr/local/share/man, since no other man pages are in either /usr/share/man or in /usr/local/share/man the ikiwiki
-> man page is a bit lonely, and more to the point not on my MANPATH. Still I have found it now, I'll just move it to somewhere
-> more sensible. [[Chris]]
-
-* Running "ikiwiki --setup ikiwiki.setup" doesn't do anything. I have edited ikiwiki.setup to
-my local settings. There are no errors but neither does anything get compiled. An ikiwiki
-command to explicitly do the compile works fine. Am I misunderstanding something here?
-
-> Further tests indicate that ikiwiki isn't seeing changed files so doesn't always rebuild.
-> How does ikiwiki decide when to rebuild? I tried a full command line like "ikiwiki --verbose ikiwiki ~/public_html/ikiwiki --url=http://www.isbd.ltd.uk/~chris/ikiwiki/" and that doesn't do anything
-either though it was the command line I originally used to compile. After a long interval I 'touch'ed
-the files and then it *did* compile but 'touch'ing the files after a few minutes only doesn't seem to force a recompile. I'm even more confused!
-
-> ikiwiki only compiles files whose modification times have changed. It
-> should see any change made as close as a second after the last compile.
-> When run with --setup, ikiwiki always rebuilds every file in the wiki. If
-> --setup is not working, you must have it pointed at the wrong path or
-> something; you can pass -v to see what it's doing. I don't know why it
-> would not see recently changed files; you could try stracing it.
-> --[[Joey]]
+> `.ikiwiki` is used by ikiwiki to store internal state. You can add it to
+> svn:ignore. --[[Joey]]
+> > Thanks a lot.
-> OK, thanks, I don't quite know what was happening before but it seems to be working right now.
-> --[[Chris]]
+Is there an easy way to log via e-mail to some webmaster address, instead
+of via syslog?
->> Weird. I wish I knew what happened, but as it's working now, I'm
->> guessing some kind of user error was involved. --[[Joey]]
+> Not sure why you'd want to do that, but couldn't you use a tool like
+> logwatch to mail selected lines from the syslog? --[[Joey]]
-* I wish there was a mailing list, much easier for this sort of stuff than this, apart from
-anything else I get to use a decent editor.
+> > The reason is that I'm not logged in on the web server regularly to
+> > check the log files. I'll see whether I can install a logwatch instance.
----
# Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site?
>
> We will post the scripts as soon as we have them complete enough to convert our wikis.
>
-> -- Josh Triplett
+> -- [[JoshTriplett]]
>> Thanks for an excellent Xmas present, I will appreciate the additional
>> users this will help switch to ikiwiki! --[[Joey]]
----
-# asciidoc or txt2tags ?
-
-Any plugins or support for using asciidoc or txt2tags as the wiki language and/or exporting to asciidoc or txt2tags?
-
-> No, but it should be quite easy to write such a plugin. The otl plugin
-> is a good example of writing a formatting plugin that uses an external
-> conversion program, like asciidoc or txt2tags. --[[Joey]]
-
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-
# LaTeX support?
-Any plugins or support for exporting to LaTeX?
-(If not could use asciidoc or txt2tags mentioned above to generated LaTeX.)
-
-> It's already [[been_requested|todo/latex]], although perhaps not
-> working the way you're thinking of. Noone is currently working on it.
-> --[[Joey]]
-
->> I did some tests with using Markdown and a customized HTML::Latex and html2latex
->> and it appears it will work for me now. (I hope to use ikiwiki for many
->> to collaborate on a printed book that will be generated at least once per day in PDF format.)
->>
->> --JeremyReed
-
->>> Have a look at [pandoc](http://code.google.com/p/pandoc/). It can make PDFs via pdflatex. --[[roktas]]
+Moved to [[todo/latex]] --[[Joey]]
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# Using with CVS?
-Any examples of using ikiwiki with cvs?
-
-> No, although the existing svn backend could fairly esily be modified into
-> a CVS backend, by someone who doesn't mind working with CVS. --[[Joey]]
+Moved to a [[todo_item|todo/CVS_backend]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
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# Show differences before saving page?
-It would be nice to be able to have a button to show "Differences" (or "Show Diff") when
-editing a page. Is that an option that can be enabled?
-
-> It's doable, it could even be done by a [[todo/plugin]], I think.
-> --[[Joey]]
+Moved to the existing [[todo_item|todo/preview_changes]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
----
Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form?
-- [[JeremyReed]]
-> Not currently. Worried about abuse? --[[Joey]]
-
->> I didn't want it abused accidently or with malice. I was thinking that Perl's CGI.pm would handle this, but I don't see that.
->> I read that textarea max bytes may be 500 lines or 28000 characters or 30000 characters or 64kB. It seems like it
->> varies and I didn't test myself, because I guess it may depend on different clients and different HTTP servers.
->> This could be checked using javascript on the client side (before submitting) and by checking size on server side (before saving). --[[JeremyReed]]
-
->>> The absolute limit varies by browser. If there are web servers that
->>> also limit it, I don't know of them. --[[Joey]]
+>>> See [[todo/fileupload]] for an idea on limiting page size. --[[Joey]]
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--[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
> Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at
-> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html into account.
+> <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html> into account.
>> Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to
>> in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a
It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it.
Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
-> I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets file upload support,
+> I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets [[todo/fileupload]] support,
> it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed
> extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is
> probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would
----
-# RecentChanges should show path to wiki sub-pages?
-
-The RecentChanges only shows the final file name for the recently changes file,
-for example "discussion". It would be more useful to see "index/discussion"
-or the path to the sub-page. I think this is handled by the htmllink() routine.
-
-> Went ahead and did this, IMHO the display is ok as-is. --[[Joey]]
-
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-
# Should not create an existing page
This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first.
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-# Refreshing RecentChanges page
+# User database tools?
+
+Any tool to view user database?
-What do you think about refreshing RecentChanges page (via Meta Refresh Tag)?
-It can be useful for users like me which rather prefer watching the last changes
-in WWW browser tab than subscribing to page. --Pawel
+Any tool to edit the user database?
-> Depends, if it were done the time period should be made configurable.
-> Unwanted server load due to refeshing could be a problem for some.
+> No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to
+> list all users in the user database:
+
+ joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo'
+ http://joey.kitenet.net/
+ foo
+
+> To list each user's email address:
+
+ joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo'
+
+ joey@kitenet.net
+
+> Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store().
+> I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed
+> to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time.
> --[[Joey]]
->> Yes, it should be configurable by ikiwiki admin. I believe he's not
->> stupid and he will not set too short refresh period to kill his server :)
->> I propose to add `recentchanges_refresh` variable in ikiwiki setup
->> to setting refresh period. If it's not defined, then ikiwiki doesn't put
->> refresh meta tag into `recentchanges.tmpl`. Do you like it? ;) --Pawel
+----
+
+# Spaces in WikiLinks?
+
+Hello Joey,
+
+I've just switched from ikiwiki 2.0 to ikiwiki 2.2 and I'm really surprised
+that I can't use the spaces in WikiLinks. Could you please tell me why the spaces
+aren't allowed in WikiLinks now?
+
+My best regards,
+
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
+
+----
+
+# Build in OpenSolaris?
+
+I've learned I'm not yet clever enough to get IkiWiki to build in OpenSolaris (as running on a [Joyent Accelerator][ja]). Anyone figured this out already?
+
+I think problem lies mostly, if not entirely, in getting ikiwiki.cgi.c to compile in an OpenSolaris context (this is ikiwiki-2.2):
+
+> <code>$ ikiwiki --setup ~/etc/ikiwiki/ikiwiki-edit.setup
+> [...]
+> Error: failed to compile /home/username/domains/domain.tld/cgi-bin/ikiwiki.cgi.c at /opt/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/IkiWiki.pm line 104.
+BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 145.</code>
+
+More specifically,
+
+> <code>$ /usr/sfw/bin/gcc ikiwiki.cgi.c
+> Undefined first referenced
+> symbol in file
+> asprintf /var/tmp//cczPaG7R.o
+> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to a.out
+> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status</code>
+
+[ja]: <http://www.joyent.com/accelerator/technical-specifications/>
+
+Thanks, Joey et al., for a really cool tool.
+
+--Mike
->>> Seems reasonable --[[Joey]]
+> Looks like the ikiwiki wrapper uses asprintf. glibc has that, and I think some other libc implementations have that, but apparently the Solaris libc does not. The same problem will come up on other platforms that don't use glibc. The ikiwiki wrapper needs to either avoid asprintf or use a portable asprintf implementation from somewhere like gnulib. --[[JoshTriplett]]
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