>> Something like the moinmoin global <http://master.moinmo.in/BadContent>
>> list?
+>>> OpenID can be thought of as pushing the problem of determining if
+>>> someone is a human or a spambot back from the openid consumer to the
+>>> openid provider. So, providers that make it possible for spambots to
+>>> use their openids, or that are even set up explicitly for use in
+>>> spamming, would be the ones to block. Or, providers that are known to
+>>> use very good screening for humans would be the ones to allow.
+>>> (Openid delegation makes it a bit harder than just looking at the
+>>> openid url though.) --[[Joey]]
+
+>>>> Well, OpenID only addresses authentication issues, not authorisation issues.
+>>>> Given that it is trivial to set up your own OpenID provider (a full provider, not
+>>>> just a forward to another provider), I can't see a
+>>>> blacklist working in the long term (it would be like blacklisting email).
+>>>> A whitelist might work (it would not be quite as bad as whitelisting email). In any case,
+>>>> there is now a captcha plugin for those that want it. It is accessible
+>>>> (there is an audio option) and serves a social purpose along with
+>>>> keeping bots out (the captcha is used to help digitise hard to read
+>>>> words in books for [Carnegie Mellon University](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/) and
+>>>> [The Internet Archive](http://www.archive.org/) ). Finally, because the actual captcha is outsourced
+>>>> it means that someone else is taking care of keeping it ahead of
+>>>> the bot authors.
+
Okie - I have a first pass of this. There are still some issues.
Currently the code verifies the CAPTCHA. If you get it right then you're fine.
of all the other fields, so using OpenID will cause the CAPTCHA to be
ignored.
-> This is still a todo.
+> This is still not fixed. I would have thought the following patch would
+> have fixed this second issue, but it doesn't.
+
+(code snipped as a working patch is below)
+
+>> What seems to be happing here is that the openid plugin defines a
+>> validate hook for openid_url that calls validate(). validate() in turn
+>> redirects the user to the openid server for validation, and exits. If
+>> the openid plugins' validate hook is called before your recaptcha
+>> validator, your code never gets a chance to run. I don't know how to
+>> control the other that FormBuilder validates fields, but the only fix I
+>> can see is to somehow influence that order.
+>>
+>> Hmm, maybe you need to move your own validation code out of the validate
+>> hook. Instead, just validate the captcha in the formbuilder_setup hook.
+>> The problem with this approach is that if validation fails, you can't
+>> just flag it as invalid and let formbuilder handle that. Instead, you'd
+>> have to hack something in to redisplay the captcha by hand. --[[Joey]]
+
+>>> Fixed this. I just modified the OpenID plugin to check if the captcha
+>>> succeeded or failed. Seeing as the OpenID plugin is the one that is
+>>> abusing the normal validate method, I figured it was best to keep
+>>> the fix in the same place. I also added a config switch so you can set if
+>>> the captcha is needed for OpenID logins. OpenID defaults to ignoring
+>>> the captcha.
+>>> Patch is inline below.
+>>> I think this whole thing is working now.
+
+>>>> Ok, glad it's working. Not thrilled that it needs to modify the
+>>>> openid plugin, especially as I'm not sure if i I will integrate the
+>>>> captcha plugin into mainline. Also because it's not very clean to have
+>>>> the oprnid plugin aware of another plugin like that. I'd like to
+>>>> prusue my idea of not doing the captcha validation in the validate
+>>>> hook.
+
+--- a/IkiWiki/Plugin/openid.pm
++++ b/IkiWiki/Plugin/openid.pm
+@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ sub getopt () { #{{{
+ error($@) if $@;
+ Getopt::Long::Configure('pass_through');
+ GetOptions("openidsignup=s" => \$config{openidsignup});
++ GetOptions("openidneedscaptcha=s" => \$config{openidneedscaptcha});
+ } #}}}
+
+ sub formbuilder_setup (@) { #{{{
+@@ -61,6 +62,7 @@ sub formbuilder_setup (@) { #{{{
+ # Skip all other required fields in this case.
+ foreach my $field ($form->field) {
+ next if $field eq "openid_url";
++ next if $config{openidneedscaptcha} && $field eq "recaptcha";
+ $form->field(name => $field, required => 0,
+ validate => '/.*/');
+ }
+@@ -96,6 +98,18 @@ sub validate ($$$;$) { #{{{
+ }
+ }
+
++ if ($config{openidneedscaptcha} && defined $form->field("recaptcha")) {
++ foreach my $field ($form->field) {
++ next unless ($field eq "recaptcha");
++ if (! $field->validate) {
++ # if they didn't get the captcha right,
++ # then just claim we validated ok so the
++ # captcha can cause a fail
++ return 1;
++ }
++ }
++ }
++
+ my $check_url = $claimed_identity->check_url(
+ return_to => IkiWiki::cgiurl(do => "postsignin"),
+ trust_root => $config{cgiurl},
+
Instructions
=====