+I'd like to create a collapsable tree with a map, eg
+
+* top level item
+
+* * second level item1
+
+* * * content 1
+
+* * * content 2
+
+* * * content 3
+
+* * second level item2
+
+* * second level item3
+
+
+but I can't work out how to specify "all items at this level, and all directories at ../ and all the other directories to the root
+
+any ideas?
+
+> I don't think pagespecs currently support that. How would such a made-up
+> pagespec look? I can imagine it supporting something like `glob(../*) and not
+> glob(../*/*)` to match all "directories" of the parent page, and so on up
+> to the root. --[[Joey]]
+
+>> I don't know, perhaps some way of nesting pagespecs
+>>> glob(../* unless $_ eq 'second level item'{ glob 'second level item'/*})
+
+>> but that could get messy, perhaps a new cmd 'pagetree' or something
+>> might be better? --Colin
+
+>>> You could probably do a lot worse than stealing terminology from
+>>> [XPath Axes](http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath/#axes),
+>>> passing the "argument" through `bestlink` if there is one, and
+>>> treating an empty argument as "this page", something like:
+>>>
+>>> * `ancestor(/plugins/contrib/album)` matches `plugins` or
+>>> `plugins/contrib`
+>>> but not `plugins/map` or `plugins/contrib/album`
+>>> (does it match `index`? answers on a postcard)
+>>> * `descendant(/plugins)` is basically `plugins/*`
+>>> * `child(/plugins)` is basically `plugins/* and !plugins/*/*`
+>>> * `self(/plugins)` is just `plugins` but without interpreting
+>>> globs
+>>> * `ancestor-or-self(/plugins)`, `descendant-or-self(/plugins)`
+>>> are syntactic sugar for e.g. `ancestor(/plugins) or self(/plugins)`
+>>> * `self()` always matches the current page (not destpage)
+>>> * `ancestor-or-self()` always matches the current pages and all
+>>> pages that would go in its [[plugins/parentlinks]]
+>>>
+>>> XPath has `following-sibling` and `preceding-sibling` axes for
+>>> siblings, but pagespecs are unordered, so we'd probably want
+>>> to invent `sibling()` - so `sibling(/plugins/map)` matches
+>>> `plugins/inline` but not `plugins/map` or `plugins/contrib/album`.
+>>>
+>>> Then, the requested functionality would be `sibling() or ancestor()`,
+>>> or possibly `sibling() or ancestor() or self()`?
+>>> --[[smcv]]
+
+>>>> I like that idea! --[[KathrynAndersen]]