> What has been done so far, can be extended. Basically works
> in browsers, if you don't care about standards. A good prerequisite
> for anything else, anyway.
-> 2. Switch to html5 in eg, ikiwiki 4; users have to deal with
+> 2. Have both a html5 and a xhtml mode, allow user to select.
+> 3. Switch to html5 in eg, ikiwiki 4; users have to deal with
> any custom markup on their pages/templates that breaks then.
-> 3. Have both a html5 and a xhtml mode, allow user to select.
->
-> The third option seems fairly tractable from what I see here and in
-> your branch. You made only relatively minor changes to 10 templates.
-> It would probably not be too dreadful to put them in ifdefs.
>
-> Some of your changes are obvious, like using the new `time` and
-> and `article` elements. Others less so, and I'm particularly
-> puzzled by these:
->
-> * Removing the value="Submit" from the button on the
-> commentmoderation form.
-> * Removing feedlink.tmpl. What?!
-> * Using a `h2` for the header of inlinepage.tmpl and page.tmpl, rather
-> than the styled span. Ikiwiki has
-> [[a_reason|todo/Option_to_make_title_an_h1?]] for not
-> using real `hN` for the header atop a page and here.
-> AFAICS, html5 does not invalidate that.
-> * Removing Editurl from inlinepage.tmpl actions. I assume
-> this is your own preference, needs to be removed from branch
-> before I can use it.
-> * Removing the pageheader, content, and footer divs
-> which are all used by style.css.
-> Perhaps, the style sheet needs to be updated to use
-> the new elements, like the `footer` and `header`.
-> * Removal of the favicon from page.tmpl. Surely html5 supports?
-> * Removal of BASEURL from page.tmpl, apparently a mistake.
-> * Removal of the `/` between wiki title and page title.
-> Personal preference.
-> * Removal of `comments` div, which is there to be styled.
-> * Why use a `p` rather than the `div` for `addcomments`?
-> * Moving the action bar to the bottom of the page.
-> Personal preference.
-> * Clearly searchquery.tmpl has no business using bad old `center`
-> tag, but something should still be done to replace it.
+> The second option seems fairly tractable from what I see here and in
+> your branch. You made only relatively minor changes to 10 templates.
+> It would probably not be too dreadful to put them in ifdefs. I've made a
+> small start at doing that.
>
-> (BTW, it would be helpful if you could re-merge master into your branch
-> as it is a bit diverged now.)
+> I've made ikiwiki use the time element and all the new semantic elements
+> in html5 mode.
>
> Other ideas:
->
-> * Add pubdate attribute to time elements as appropriate.
-> * Use aside for the sidebar? Or for the [[templates/note]] template?
-> * Use nav for the actionbar
-> * Use placeholder in the search box. Allows closing
-> [[this_todo|Add_label_to_search_form_input_field]]
+>
> * Use details tag instead of the javascript in the toggle plugin.
> (Need to wait on browser support probably.)
+> * Use figure and figcaption for captions in img. However, I have not
+> managed to style it to look as good as the current table+caption
+> approach.
+>
> --[[Joey]]
# htmlscrubber.pm needs to not scrub new HTML5 elements
> Many added now.
>
> Things I left out, too hard to understand today:
-> Attributes contenteditabl, contextmenu,
-> data-*, draggable, hidden, role, aria-*. Tags command, keygen,
-> output.
+> Attributes contenteditable,
+> data-\*, draggable, role, aria-\*.
+> Tags command, keygen, output.
>
> Clearly unsafe: embed.
>
Internet Explorer will display it as a block, though you can't seem to be able to further control the style.
+> done (needed for header too) --[[Joey]]
+
## Time element
The [time element](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-time-element) ideally needs the datatime= attribute set by a template variable with what [HTML5 defines as a valid datetime string](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/infrastructure.html#valid-global-date-and-time-string).
> Also, the [[plugins/relativedate]] plugin needs to be updated to
> support relatatizing the contents of time elements. --[[Joey]]
+
+> Done and done; in html5 mode it uses the time tag, and even
+> adds pubdate when displaying ctimes. --[[Joey]]
+
+## tidy plugin
+
+Will reformat html5 to html4.
+
+----
+
+
+Ok, I consider this [[done]], at least as a first pass. Html5 mode
+is experimental, but complete enough. --[[Joey]]