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-# Installation/Setup questions
-
-I have just installed ikiwiki and it works - at least I have the example index.mdwn page
-compiled and visible. However I have a few issues/problems:-
-
-* A couple of the 'optional' Perl modules aren't optional, you can't install ikiwiki without them,
-these are HTML::Template and HTML::Scrubber (at least I think it was these two, it's a bit messy
-to go back and find out).
-
-> You're right, HTML::Template is required. HTML::Scrubber is only required
-> in the default configuration, and is optional if the htmlscrubber plugin
-> is disabled. --[[Joey]]
+[[toc ]]
-* I don't seem to have got an ikiwiki man page created.
+# Installation/Setup questions
-> It should be installed in /usr/share/man, or a similar directory
-> depending on how your perl is set up and how you did the install.
-> --[[Joey]]
+Ikiwiki creates a .ikiwiki directory in my wikiwc working directory. Should I
+"svn add .ikiwiki" or add it to svn:ignore?
-> Found it, in /usr/local/share/man, since no other man pages are in either /usr/share/man or in /usr/local/share/man the ikiwiki
-> man page is a bit lonely, and more to the point not on my MANPATH. Still I have found it now, I'll just move it to somewhere
-> more sensible. [[Chris]]
-
-* Running "ikiwiki --setup ikiwiki.setup" doesn't do anything. I have edited ikiwiki.setup to
-my local settings. There are no errors but neither does anything get compiled. An ikiwiki
-command to explicitly do the compile works fine. Am I misunderstanding something here?
-
-> Further tests indicate that ikiwiki isn't seeing changed files so doesn't always rebuild.
-> How does ikiwiki decide when to rebuild? I tried a full command line like "ikiwiki --verbose ikiwiki ~/public_html/ikiwiki --url=http://www.isbd.ltd.uk/~chris/ikiwiki/" and that doesn't do anything
-either though it was the command line I originally used to compile. After a long interval I 'touch'ed
-the files and then it *did* compile but 'touch'ing the files after a few minutes only doesn't seem to force a recompile. I'm even more confused!
-
-> ikiwiki only compiles files whose modification times have changed. It
-> should see any change made as close as a second after the last compile.
-> When run with --setup, ikiwiki always rebuilds every file in the wiki. If
-> --setup is not working, you must have it pointed at the wrong path or
-> something; you can pass -v to see what it's doing. I don't know why it
-> would not see recently changed files; you could try stracing it.
-> --[[Joey]]
+> `.ikiwiki` is used by ikiwiki to store internal state. You can add it to
+> svn:ignore. --[[Joey]]
+> > Thanks a lot.
-> OK, thanks, I don't quite know what was happening before but it seems to be working right now.
-> --[[Chris]]
+Is there an easy way to log via e-mail to some webmaster address, instead
+of via syslog?
->> Weird. I wish I knew what happened, but as it's working now, I'm
->> guessing some kind of user error was involved. --[[Joey]]
+> Not sure why you'd want to do that, but couldn't you use a tool like
+> logwatch to mail selected lines from the syslog? --[[Joey]]
-* I wish there was a mailing list, much easier for this sort of stuff than this, apart from
-anything else I get to use a decent editor.
+> > The reason is that I'm not logged in on the web server regularly to
+> > check the log files. I'll see whether I can install a logwatch instance.
----
# Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site?
>
> We will post the scripts as soon as we have them complete enough to convert our wikis.
>
-> -- Josh Triplett
+> -- [[JoshTriplett]]
>> Thanks for an excellent Xmas present, I will appreciate the additional
>> users this will help switch to ikiwiki! --[[Joey]]
----
-# OpenID
-
-I just figured I'd edit something on the page with my OpenID, since you've implemented it! --*[Kyle](http://kitenet.net/~kyle/)*=
-
-> Kyle, If you like openid, I can switch your personal wiki over to use your openid. --[[Joey]]
-
-----
-
-# ACL
+# LaTeX support?
-> Moved to [[todo/ACL]] --[[Joey]]
+Moved to [[todo/latex]] --[[Joey]]
----
-Some questions about the RecentChanges function. -- Ethan
+# Using with CVS?
-> (Moved to [[todo/recentchanges]] --[[Joey]])
+Moved to a [[todo_item|todo/CVS_backend]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
----
-Also, I'd like to request another template parameter which is just
-$config{url}. That way you won't have to hard-code the URL of the wiki into
-the template. -- Ethan
+# Show differences before saving page?
-> That's already available in the BASEURL parameter. --[[Joey]]
+Moved to the existing [[todo_item|todo/preview_changes]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]
----
-# Canonical feed location?
+# Max submit size?
+
+Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form?
+-- [[JeremyReed]]
-Moved to [[todo/canonical_feed_location]] --[[Joey]]
+>>> See [[todo/fileupload]] for an idea on limiting page size. --[[Joey]]
----
-# asciidoc or txt2tags ?
+# Access Keys
+
+Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other
+wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an
+accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those
+actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts?
+--[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
-Any plugins or support for using asciidoc or txt2tags as the wiki language and/or exporting to asciidoc or txt2tags?
+> Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at
+> <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html> into account.
-> No, but it should be quite easy to write such a plugin. The otl plugin
-> is a good example of writing a formatting plugin that uses an external
-> conversion program, like asciidoc or txt2tags. --[[Joey]]
+>> Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to
+>> in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a
+>> a user complaint recently that Alt-e in oddmuse was overriding his access
+>> to the browser menu.
----
-# LaTeX support?
+# Editing the style sheet.
-Any plugins or support for exporting to LaTeX?
-(If not could use asciidoc or txt2tags mentioned above to generated LaTeX.)
+It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it.
+Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
-> It's already [[been_requested|todo/latex]], although perhaps not
-> working the way you're thinking of. Noone is currently working on it.
-> --[[Joey]]
+> I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets [[todo/fileupload]] support,
+> it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed
+> extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is
+> probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would
+> be filtered out of any regular page in ikiwiki). --[[Joey]]
->> I did some tests with using Markdown and a customized HTML::Latex and html2latex
->> and it appears it will work for me now. (I hope to use ikiwiki for many
->> to collaborate on a printed book that will be generated at least once per day in PDF format.)
->>
->> --JeremyReed
+>> I hadn't thought of that at all. It's a common feature and one I've
+>> relied on safely, because the wikis I am maintaining at the moment
+>> are all private and restricted to trusted users. Given that the whole
+>> point of ikiwiki is to be able to access and edit via the shell as
+>> well as the web, I suppose the features doesn't add a lot. By the
+>> way, the w3m mode is brilliant. I haven't tried it yet, but the idea
+>> is great.
----
-# Using with CVS?
-
-Any examples of using ikiwiki with cvs?
+# Should not create an existing page
-> No, although the existing svn backend could fairly esily be modified into
-> a CVS backend, by someone who doesn't mind working with CVS. --[[Joey]]
+This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first.
+Clicking on an old "?" or going to a create link but new Markdown content exists, should not go into "create" mode, but should do a regular "edit".
-----
-
-# Show differences before saving page?
+> I belive that currently it does a redirect to the new static web page.
+> At least that's the intent of the code. --[[Joey]]
-It would be nice to be able to have a button to show "Differences" (or "Show Diff") when
-editing a page. Is that an option that can be enabled?
+>> Try at your site: `?page=discussion&from=index&do=create`
+>> It brings up an empty textarea to start a new webpage -- even though it already exists here. --reed
-> It's doable, it could even be done by a [[todo/plugin]], I think.
-> --[[Joey]]
+>>> Ah, right. Notice that the resulting form allows saving the page as
+>>> discussion, or users/discussion, but not index/discussion, since this
+>>> page already exists. If all the pages existed, it would do the redirect
+>>> thing. --[[Joey]]
----
-# Max submit size?
+# User database tools?
-Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form?
--- [[JeremyReed]]
+Any tool to view user database?
-> Not currently. Worried about abuse? --[[Joey]]
+Any tool to edit the user database?
->> I didn't want it abused accidently or with malice. I was thinking that Perl's CGI.pm would handle this, but I don't see that.
->> I read that textarea max bytes may be 500 lines or 28000 characters or 30000 characters or 64kB. It seems like it
->> varies and I didn't test myself, because I guess it may depend on different clients and different HTTP servers.
->> This could be checked using javascript on the client side (before submitting) and by checking size on server side (before saving). --[[JeremyReed]]
+> No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to
+> list all users in the user database:
->>> The absolute limit varies by browser. If there are web servers that
->>> also limit it, I don't know of them. --[[Joey]]
+ joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo'
+ http://joey.kitenet.net/
+ foo
-----
+> To list each user's email address:
-# Disable sub-discussion pages?
+ joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo'
+
+ joey@kitenet.net
-Moved to [[bugs]] -- [[Joey]]
+> Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store().
+> I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed
+> to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time.
+> --[[Joey]]
----
-# Textile Plugin
-
-It was trivial, but I put together a plugin that uses the Textile markup
-language, which I find to be the most superior of the various options for
-that sort of thing. Where or how do I submit it for inclusion?
+# Spaces in WikiLinks?
-> You can post it to [[plugins/contrib]]. --[[Joey]]
+Hello Joey,
->> Thanks. I tried using the "Add new post" form there, but apparently made a [mess of things somehow](http://ikiwiki.kitenet.net/contrib/textile___40__third-party_plugin__41__.html). Sorry about that.
+I've just switched from ikiwiki 2.0 to ikiwiki 2.2 and I'm really surprised
+that I can't use the spaces in WikiLinks. Could you please tell me why the spaces
+aren't allowed in WikiLinks now?
->>> No problem, the contrib form had the wrong rootpage setting. I've fixed
->>> it up and moved it to the right place. A copyright statement would be
->>> nice.
+My best regards,
-> How does one go about making a markup language added by means of a plugin, the default markup language. In other words, I would like the index page to be written in Textile.
-> If I include a index.txtl (where txtl is the extension I have assigned to be handled by the textile plugin), ikiwiki will ignore it and make a new index.mdwn.
+--Pawel
->> Sounds like a bug; it should be configurable via `default_pageext`, but
->> I suspect that currently if there are two competing files with different
->> extensions that make the same page, they fight it out and some random
->> one "wins"
->>
->> Until I fix that, you can avoid the one from the underlay directory by
->> setting `underlaydir` to point to an empty directory. --[[Joey]]
->>
->> Ok, fixed (in svn), it will now prefer files in the srcdir over files
->> in the underlaydir that build the same page, no matter what extension.
+----
->>> Thanks, Joey, much appreciated. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
+# Build in OpenSolaris?
-----
+I've learned I'm not yet clever enough to get IkiWiki to build in OpenSolaris (as running on a [Joyent Accelerator][ja]). Anyone figured this out already?
-# Access Keys
+I think problem lies mostly, if not entirely, in getting ikiwiki.cgi.c to compile in an OpenSolaris context (this is ikiwiki-2.2):
-Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other
-wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an
-accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those
-actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts?
---[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
+> <code>$ ikiwiki --setup ~/etc/ikiwiki/ikiwiki-edit.setup
+> [...]
+> Error: failed to compile /home/username/domains/domain.tld/cgi-bin/ikiwiki.cgi.c at /opt/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/IkiWiki.pm line 104.
+BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 145.</code>
-----
+More specifically,
-# Editing the style sheet.
+> <code>$ /usr/sfw/bin/gcc ikiwiki.cgi.c
+> Undefined first referenced
+> symbol in file
+> asprintf /var/tmp//cczPaG7R.o
+> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to a.out
+> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status</code>
-It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it.
-Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --[Mazirian](http://mazirian.com)
+[ja]: <http://www.joyent.com/accelerator/technical-specifications/>
-----
+Thanks, Joey et al., for a really cool tool.
-# Disable build/install requirement on PerlMagick
+--Mike
-Some installs of PerlMagick require X11. I tried to first disable using "img" by using "--disable-plugin img"
-in the Makefile. But still failed. My workaround was to remove "img" from the bundle in IkiWiki/Plugin/goodstuff.pm
-before building. What is the recommended way to install ikiwiki without "img" support? --[[JeremyReed]]
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+> Looks like the ikiwiki wrapper uses asprintf. glibc has that, and I think some other libc implementations have that, but apparently the Solaris libc does not. The same problem will come up on other platforms that don't use glibc. The ikiwiki wrapper needs to either avoid asprintf or use a portable asprintf implementation from somewhere like gnulib. --[[JoshTriplett]]
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