+
+>> I have to appologize, I accidentally copied the template wrongly and that caused all the issues ;(
+>> So now after two days debugging and tracing, I just fixed that and it works. Well, at least a learnt
+>> a lot about ikiwiki internal ;-)
+>> Thanks for all the work you did on the plugin! --Lukas
+
+----
+
+### bug + patch: not all images shown on album page
+
+Hi smcv, we spoke on irc the other day. Passed `show => "0"` on line 126 in album.pm to remove the limit on the thumbnails shown on the album page. Setting it on the album directive didn't work.
+
+--kjs
+
+> That sounds like a correct solution. I'll fix that in my branch when I work on
+> this again. --[[smcv]]
+
+>> Fixed in `album5` branch --s
+
+----
+
+### bug: thumbnailsize doesn't work
+
+As mentioned above by Jaime setting the thumbnailsize doesn't catch either. Or rather if I git push after changing the album directive the generated thumbnails (the image files) are the correct size as set in the directive. The html however uses the default thumbnailsize as hardcoded in album.pm and has broken thumbnails as it links to a file with the default size in the filename.
+
+> [[KathrynAndersen]] fixed this, see below. --[[smcv]]
+
+>> Fixed in `album5` branch --s
+
+Issuing `ikiwiki --rebuild` knocks the system into another gear where the thumbnails show up correctly but this is only due to the html being the same as above (linking to hardcoded thumbnailsize) but the generated thumbnail images are now matching the hardcoded size ignoring the thumbnailsize attribute on the album directive.
+
+For me this behaviour is way beyond my skills to sort out (I'm no coder). The albumplugin ikiwiki combo is very attractive to me and the plugin i soo close to working!
+
+--kjs
+
+### suggested fix for thumbnail size bug
+
+I've tracked down the "always showing the 96x96 thumbnails" bug!
+
+The problem is in the pagetemplate function, which calls "thumbnail" to determine the name of the thumbnail image to use. As you know, the "img" method of generating thumbnails includes the size of the thumbnail as part of its name (to ensure that resizing thumbnails will create a new file of the correct size). The problem is... that in the pagetemplate function, the thumbnailsize is NOT passed in to the call to "thumbnail", so it always returns the default size, 96x96. Hence nothing that anyone can do will change the thumbnails to anything else. Oh, the different-sized thumbnail images ARE created, but they're never linked to.
+
+Here's a context-diff of my fix:
+
+<pre>
+*** /home/kat/files/repos/ikiwiki_smcv/IkiWiki/Plugin/album.pm 2013-12-18 14:50:06.861623226 +1100
+--- album.pm 2013-12-18 15:51:09.393582879 +1100
+***************
+*** 484,489 ****
+--- 484,490 ----
+ my $viewer = $params{page};
+ my $album = $pagestate{$viewer}{album}{album};
+ my $image = $pagestate{$viewer}{album}{image};
++ my $thumbnailsize = $pagestate{$album}{album}{thumbnailsize};
+
+ return unless defined $album;
+ return unless defined $image;
+***************
+*** 495,501 ****
+
+ if ($template->query(name => 'thumbnail')) {
+ $template->param(thumbnail =>
+! thumbnail($viewer, $params{destpage}));
+ }
+ if (IkiWiki::isinlinableimage($image)
+ && ($template->query(name => 'imagewidth') ||
+--- 496,502 ----
+
+ if ($template->query(name => 'thumbnail')) {
+ $template->param(thumbnail =>
+! thumbnail($viewer, $params{destpage}, $thumbnailsize));
+ }
+ if (IkiWiki::isinlinableimage($image)
+ && ($template->query(name => 'imagewidth') ||
+</pre>
+
+-- [[KathrynAndersen]]
+
+> I haven't tried this change, but it seems sane. I'll apply it
+> when I next work on this plugin.
+>
+> (OOI: why not a unified diff? The VCS world seems to have
+> settled on those as universal, and I find them easier to
+> read.)
+>
+> --[[smcv]]
+
+>> Fixed in `album5` --s
+
+----
+
+### bug: inability to show more than 10 items
+
+I've found another bug. The album plugin doesn't allow one to have more than 10 items in an album section. This is because it uses "inline" to display album sections, and the default for inline is to show only 10 items. So it only shows 10 items.
+
+What would be good is if the album directive could have a "show" parameter which is passed on to preprocess_inline, so that users could decide how many items to show (including ALL of them, if they give show=0).
+
+-- [[KathrynAndersen]]
+
+> My intention was that all items would always be shown, so I would always pass
+> `show => 0` to `preprocess_inline` (as kjs suggested above), but that must have
+> got lost somewhere. I'll apply it next time I work on this plugin.
+>
+> An optional `show` parameter would be a possible enhancement beyond that,
+> although I don't know how useful it would be; if it isn't passed, the
+> default should be 0 (unlimited). --[[smcv]]
+
+>> Fixed in `album5` --s
+
+----
+
+### cbaines' commit to change default thumbnail size
+
+Regarding commit `Change the default thumbnail size`: as far as I
+understand it, `size => 96x96` is meant to set the image size to
+be as large as possible given these constraints: width ≤ 96px,
+height ≤ 96px, and the original aspect ratio is preserved. So I
+would hope that 96x96 doesn't distort the thumbnails. What distortion
+are you seeing, and which versions of Imagemagick and Perlmagick
+are you using?
+
+--[[smcv]]
+
+> I rebuilt the examples using both your album4 and album5 branches, and I only
+> see this in the album4 branch. So this is probably ok to ignore.
+> --[[cbaines]]
+>
+>> OK, I'll assume that was a duplicate of an earlier patch, probably the
+>> one from KathrynAndersen. --s
+
+"""]]
+
+----
+
+## wishlist + patch: make clicking on the large image go to the next
+
+I've changed the behavior of the "slideshow" to show the next image when clicking the large image as downloading a full resolution image is a rare use case in a gallery of this type imho. The large clicktarget means you are likely to unnecessarily download large files otherwise. I can't quite follow the template, album.pm flow so I can't figure out how to put a "download full resolution" link on the viewer page which would be my next step. To achieve the next link i added ` link => ($nextpage or $album),` around line 454 in `my $img`
+
+--kjs
+
+> That seems reasonable. I'll consider that when I work on this
+> plugin again next. --[[smcv]]
+
+----
+
+## wishlist from kjs
+
+My wishlist for the plugin would include:
+
+- Reading exif info from the imagefile
+- ~~Keeping the full resolution image files out of version control~~ Solved this by simply creating a underlay for the images. Works out of the box for my non cgi workflow.
+- Being able to create new albums by tag or by manually picking images from other albums. Could be a simple comma separated list of viewer names, or even full urls, in the album directive.
+- A counter showing **current image/total number of images in album**. This would mean that you know how many images you have left to click through before you have seen all images in an album. This gives you enought info to decide weather to click through or go back/leave.
+
+--kjs
+
+> I want the first two of those too, perhaps one day I'll get round to
+> implementing them.
+>
+> For the third, you can get the same practical effect using an inline
+> as documented in the main page. --[[smcv]]
+>> The downside to current behaviour is that clicking an inlined thumbnail will take you to the original album context. Previous/Next image will not match the thumbnails in the inline but the thumbnails in the album. This is a bit confusing for users and prevents using the image in multiple contexts without duplicating the image. To achieve what I'm looking for there would have to be several AlbumViewer pages for a single image. --kjs
+>>
+>>> Hmm, OK. That breaks the "one picture : one page" mental model,
+>>> unfortunately. The pictures themselves can't be first-class wiki pages (see
+>>> lengthy design discussions with Joey above) because they aren't something
+>>> that produces HTML, and don't have human-readable text source code.
+>>> In the current (album5) design, the viewer pages that are automatically
+>>> created to go alongside the pictures are basically stand-ins for the
+>>> pictures, as far as metadata, wikilinks, tags and other "first-class
+>>> wiki page" things are concerned.
+>>>
+>>> If there are to be viewer pages elsewhere in the wiki, I don't think
+>>> inheriting the picture's metadata is desired. Suppose you have a
+>>> picture of Alice and Bob in the album "holiday in Exampleton, 2010",
+>>> and it is tagged people/alice, people/bob and places/exampleton; the
+>>> other contexts it appears in might include "pictures of Alice" and
+>>> "pictures near Exampleton". If you look at the tag page for
+>>> places/exampleton, I doubt you want to see that photo listed three
+>>> times - once is enough, there's only one actual photo after all. So
+>>> I think the "main" viewer page should be the only one that has
+>>> the taglinks for people/alice, people/bob, places/exampleton.
+>>>
+>>> My next question is, should the viewer page representing that
+>>> particular picture in its context of "pictures near Exampleton"
+>>> (i.e. its "next" and "previous" links go to the next and
+>>> previous picture near Exampleton, regardless of whether it was
+>>> on an earlier or later visit) be a first-class wiki page
+>>> at all?
+>>>
+>>> * Does it make any sense to comment on "this picture in this
+>>> context", if your wiki has comments, or should the only
+>>> place you can comment on it be its "main" viewer page?
+>>> * Is there any need for it to be possible to make a wikilink
+>>> to that particular picture in that particular context,
+>>> or does it only need wikilinks "to the picture" (which,
+>>> as an implementation detail, really go to its "main" viewer
+>>> page)?
+>>> * Can the picture in that particular context have tags
+>>> that are orthogonal to the tags its "main" viewer page has?
+>>> * ... and so on for various wiki features
+>>>
+>>> It sound as though the answer might ideally be that this secondary
+>>> viewer page doesn't need to be a first-class wiki page at all,
+>>> only a HTML output... except that the trail plugin works in terms
+>>> of next and previous first-class wiki pages, not next and
+>>> previous HTML outputs, and the HTML-generation pipeline
+>>> is really aimed towards real pages.
+>>>
+>>> Perhaps the secondary viewer page should end up looking
+>>> something like this:
+>>>
+>>> \[[!albumviewer original=holiday-in-exampleton-2010/img1234
+>>> comment="To edit picture metadata, edit the original page instead"]]
+>>>
+>>> and one of the side-effects of the albumviewer directive should be to
+>>> replace [[plugins/comments]] with a link to the original? --s
+
+----
+
+## cbaines' CSS changes
+
+Regarding the CSS changes: I'll try to have a look soon, work out
+what actually changed (since you re-ordered the CSS, so it isn't
+immediately obvious from the diff), and integrate some or all of your
+changes. Since Joey shows no signs of wanting to merge it, and "out of tree"
+installation is currently a pain, I might split out the CSS changes into a
+separate `ikiwiki/album.css` so that the only thing that needs to be merged
+into style.css (or into local.css) is an appropriate
+`@import` rule.
+
+It shouldn't be necessary to add the album stuff to each individual
+theme's style.css unless you actually want an actiontabs album and
+a blueview album to be styled differently, because the IkiWiki Makefile
+concatenates them: for instance, `/usr/share/ikiwiki/themes/actiontabs/style.css`
+is the output of `cat doc/style.css themes/actiontabs/style.css`. So adding it
+to `doc/style.css` should be enough? --[[smcv]]
+
+> I don't think this is the case? Or at least, looking at the generated
+> stylesheet for the examples built using my branch, I would expect there to be
+> two copies of the album rules in the stylesheet [1], but there does not
+> appear to be. This could quite easily be a result of some mistake in my part
+> in not isolating the build though. --[[cbaines]]
+>
+> 1: <http://cbaines.net/projects/ikiwiki/album/dest/basic-actiontabs/style.css>
+>
+>> I searched for `/* relevant to the index page */` and found it twice,
+>> so I stand by what I said :-) --s