+No matter what I do, ikiwiki gives me a `Can't locate loadable object for module Locale::gettext in @INC` although I've installed (and reinstalled) the Locale module, and no luck. If I look at the directories in the INC path, I can see the file. The wiki won't compile in spite of this, and I've tried everything I can think of.. -- [[tychoish]]
+
+> Sounds like the `Locale::gettext` perl module is there, but your perl
+> installation is broken so that the accompnying so file is not there, or
+> doesn't work. On my system I have
+> `/usr/lib/perl5/Locale/gettext.pm` and
+> `/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext.so` -- suspect your problem is with
+> the second one.
+>
+> If you can't fix it, this problem could probably be worked around by
+> unsetting all environment variables when running ikiwiki (`LANG`,
+> `LC_ALL`, `LC_MESSAGES`). Then it won't try to load `Locale::gettext` at
+> all. --[[Joey]]
+
+---
+
I am trying to install Ikiwiki version 2.1 from the source tarball.
It has all gone fairly smoothly until I try and run 'make'.
This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux
## Installation in a non-root enviroment
-I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems in Perl) and documented them in [[SharedHosting]]. I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks. Thanks for the great app!
+I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems
+in Perl) and documented them in [[tips/Dreamhost]]. I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks. Thanks for the great app!
+
+
+## Typing error?
+
+[..] Mail::Sendmail, TimeDate, RPC::XML, [..]: should be DateTime? --[[vibrog]]
+
+> No, TimeDate and DateTime are two different CPAN modules. Ikiwiki uses
+> TimeDate. --[[Joey]]
+
+ah, i still don't fully get it, though (the following is slightly shortened):
+
+ $ perl -MCPAN -e shell
+ cpan> install DateTime
+ DateTime is up to date.
+ cpan> install TimeDate
+ Warning: Cannot install TimeDate, don't know what it is.
+ Try the command
+ i /TimeDate/
+ to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+I'm trying to build IkiWiki on a fresh OpenSuse 10.3 box. I start out with
+
+ $ perl -MCPAN -e 'install Text::Markdown URI HTML::Parser HTML::Template HTML::Scrubber'
+ $ git clone git://git.ikiwiki.info/ ikiwiki && cd ikiwiki
+ $ perl Makefile.PL && make
+
+Are there other prerequisites?
+I also installed all optional Perl modules, except TimeDate.
+
+> TimeDate is also, confusingly, known as Date::Parse. Perhaps CPAN would
+> do better with that name. --[[Joey]]
+
+good. Date::Parse was already installed. --[[vibrog]]
+
+`make` exits with `make: *** [extra_build] Aborted`, `make test` complains `cannot stat 'ikiwiki.man'` --[[vibrog]]
+
+> If you show me the actual error message, and not just the last line make
+> outputs, I might be able to help. --[[Joey]]
+
+ ..
+ rendering todo/calendar_--_archive_browsing_via_a_calendar_frontend.mdwn
+ make: *** [extra_build] Segmentation fault
+
+> So, perl on your system is segfaulting when running ikiwiki. What version
+> of perl is this, and what version of what distribution? --[[Joey]]
+
+ $ perl -V
+ Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
+ osname=linux, osvers=2.6.22, archname=i586-linux-thread-multi
+ uname='linux ravel 2.6.22 #1 smp 20070921 22:29:00 utc i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
+ config_args='-ds -e -Dprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dinstallusrbinperl -Dusethreads -Di_db -Di_dbm -Di_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Duseshrplib=true -Doptimize=-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -g -Wall -pipe'
+ hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
+ usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define usemultiplicity=define
+ useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
+ use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
+ usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
+
+Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]
+
+---
+
+I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+> Are you running perl with the environemnt settings specified on the page?
+> Can you show how it fails to find the bundle? --[[Joey]]
+
+>> I was not. Next time I build I will have to try that (I'll need to tweak it as I already override PERL5LIB; also I need to specify http proxies). Thanks for your help! -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+---
+
+##Further problems with Bundle::IkiWiki
+I'm also having trouble with finding Bundle::IkiWiki. I've tried it with the environment settings and without them, and also using the interactive
+form of the cpan command. I've also gone to cpan.org and searched -- eg
+
+ http://search.cpan.org/search?query=ikiwiki&mode=all
+
+and no Bundle for IkiWiki comes up at all.
+
+The error I get from the various cpan attempts is basically always the same:
+
+ Warning: Cannot install Bundle::IkiWiki, don't know what it is.
+ Try the command
+
+ i /Bundle::IkiWiki/
+
+ to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+When I try that command, BTW, it basically seems to find the same stuff I get when searching on the cpan web site.
+
+This happens both on Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.1
+
+Any help would be greatly appreciated... --kent
+
+> Bundle::IkiWiki is included in ikiwiki itself, so of course cpan.org
+> does not know about it.
+>
+> If you can show me exactly what command you ran (the tested, working
+> commands on the parent page?) and how it failed, I can try to debug
+> your problem.
+
+Just today I noticed the "Bundle" subdirectory. What a moron I am! :-) Also, I misunderstood the PERL5LIB=`pwd` part --
+I glibly thought it indicated the sink for the installation of the modules, rather than the source, and I was running
+the cpan command from another window in a different directory, and just spiraled down into error...
+
+> The real question in my mind is why you'd want to do this at all when
+> using Ubuntu, which incldues packages of ikiwiki and all its
+> dependencies. --[[Joey]]
+
+For ubuntu 8.04:
+
+ $ ikiwiki --version
+ ikiwiki version 2.32.3ubuntu2.1
+ $
+
+I was just trying to get the latest version.
+
+In any case, thanks for the help, and thanks for the superb software. I really like it a lot.
+
+---
+
+## Prerequisite modules not found for non-root user
+Hi, I'm a non-root user trying to use IkiWiki on an academic webserver with Perl 5.8.8 but several missing modules, so I grab them from CPAN (edited):
+
+ cd ~; PERL5LIB=`pwd`/ikiwiki:`pwd`/ikiwiki/cpan:`pwd`/lib/perl5 PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1 perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install("Bundle::IkiWiki")'
+
+That puts a lot of files in ~/.cpan. Then when I go into the directory where I untarred IkiWiki and try to run the Perl makefile:
+
+ cd ~/ikiwiki; perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$HOME/ikiwiki
+
+I get warnings that all the modules needed were not found:
+
+Warning: prerequisite CGI::FormBuilder not found.
+Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Date::Parse 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite HTML::Scrubber 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite HTML::Template 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Mail::Sendmail 0 not found.
+Warning: prerequisite Text::Markdown 0 not found.
+
+CORRECTION 1: I played around with CPAN and got the installation to the point of succeeding with >99% of tests in "make test".
+
+> What was the magic CPAN rune that worked for you? --[[Joey]]
+
+An attempt of "make install" failed while trying to put files in /etc/IkiWiki but per the output's instructions, I reran "make install" and that seemed to work, until this error, which doesn't seem to be satisfiable:
+
+ Warning: You do not have permissions to install into /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 114.
+ Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki.pm
+ mkdir /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/IkiWiki: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 176
+
+Any suggestions? Whew!
+
+> When you build ikiwiki, try doing it like this to make it
+> install to your home directory. Then you can run `~/bin/ikiwiki`
+> --[[Joey]]
+
+ perl Makefile.PL INSTALL_BASE=$HOME PREFIX=
+ make
+ make install