po: make the "backlinks involve dependencies" feature optional

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 No matter what I do, ikiwiki gives me a `Can't locate loadable object for module Locale::gettext in @INC` although I've installed (and reinstalled) the Locale module, and no luck. If I look at the directories in the INC path, I can see the file. The wiki won't compile in spite of this, and I've tried everything I can think of.. -- [[tychoish]]
 No matter what I do, ikiwiki gives me a `Can't locate loadable object for module Locale::gettext in @INC` although I've installed (and reinstalled) the Locale module, and no luck. If I look at the directories in the INC path, I can see the file. The wiki won't compile in spite of this, and I've tried everything I can think of.. -- [[tychoish]]

+
+> Sounds like the `Locale::gettext` perl module is there, but your perl
+> installation is broken so that the accompnying so file is not there, or
+> doesn't work. On my system I have 
+> `/usr/lib/perl5/Locale/gettext.pm` and
+> `/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext.so` -- suspect your problem is with
+> the second one.
+> 
+> If you can't fix it, this problem could probably be worked around by
+> unsetting all environment variables when running ikiwiki (`LANG`,
+> `LC_ALL`, `LC_MESSAGES`). Then it won't try to load `Locale::gettext` at
+> all. --[[Joey]]
+

 ---
 
 I am trying to install Ikiwiki version 2.1 from the source tarball.
 ---
 
 I am trying to install Ikiwiki version 2.1 from the source tarball.


@@ -97,7 +110,7 @@ This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux
 
 ## Installation in a non-root enviroment
 I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems
 
 ## Installation in a non-root enviroment
 I had a pretty hellacious time installing Ikiwiki (largely due to problems

-in Perl) and documented them in [[tips/SharedHosting]].  I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks.  Thanks for the great app!
+in Perl) and documented them in [[tips/Dreamhost]].  I'd like to get feedback on the doc and also know if I should file a few bugs to make the installation process a little friendlier to non-root folks.  Thanks for the great app!

 
 
 ## Typing error?
 
 
 ## Typing error?


@@ -156,3 +169,62 @@ good. Date::Parse was already installed. --[[vibrog]]
     usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
 
 Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]
     usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
 
 Not sure how to provide proper version information for you.--[[vibrog]]

+
+---
+
+I've tried a couple of times and my cpan has never recognised Bundle::IkiWiki. Is that section of the page still accurate? -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+> Are you running perl with the environemnt settings specified on the page?
+> Can you show how it fails to find the bundle? --[[Joey]]
+
+>> I was not. Next time I build I will have to try that (I'll need to tweak it as I already override PERL5LIB; also I need to specify http proxies). Thanks for your help! -- [[users/Jon]]
+
+---
+
+##Further problems with Bundle::IkiWiki
+I'm also having trouble with finding Bundle::IkiWiki.  I've tried it with the environment settings and without them, and also using the interactive 
+form of the cpan command.  I've also gone to cpan.org and searched -- eg
+
+    http://search.cpan.org/search?query=ikiwiki&mode=all
+
+and no Bundle for IkiWiki comes up at all.
+
+The error I get from the various cpan attempts is basically always the same:
+
+    Warning: Cannot install Bundle::IkiWiki, don't know what it is.
+    Try the command
+
+        i /Bundle::IkiWiki/
+
+    to find objects with matching identifiers.
+
+When I try that command, BTW, it basically seems to find the same stuff I get when searching on the cpan web site.
+
+This happens both on Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.1
+
+Any help would be greatly appreciated... --kent
+
+> Bundle::IkiWiki is included in ikiwiki itself, so of course cpan.org
+> does not know about it.
+> 
+> If you can show me exactly what command you ran (the tested, working
+> commands on the parent page?) and how it failed, I can try to debug
+> your problem.
+
+Just today I noticed the "Bundle" subdirectory.  What a moron I am! :-)  Also, I misunderstood the PERL5LIB=`pwd` part -- 
+I glibly thought it indicated the sink for the installation of the modules, rather than the source, and I was running 
+the cpan command from another window in a different directory, and just spiraled down into error...
+
+> The real question in my mind is why you'd want to do this at all when
+> using Ubuntu, which incldues packages of ikiwiki and all its
+> dependencies. --[[Joey]]
+
+For ubuntu 8.04: 
+
+    $ ikiwiki --version
+    ikiwiki version 2.32.3ubuntu2.1
+    $
+
+I was just trying to get the latest version.
+
+In any case, thanks for the help, and thanks for the superb software.  I really like it a lot.