+>> The [Zwiki](http://zwiki.org) project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list.
+>> Currently Zwiki's [email features](http://zwiki.org/Mail) are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate
+>> ml software. This is simple and mostly satisfying. Now and then we miss the familiarity and industrial
+>> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with [gmane](http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.zwiki) so people
+>> can use that as an alternative. I'm happy to chat about this, ping me..
+>> --[sm](http://joyful.com)
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