>> And indeed, there seems to be a HTTPS-related issue: both login mechanisms
>> work fine when on HTTPS, and both fail on HTTP. So I don't see those things
>> as being necessarily distinct. -- [[anarcat]]
+
+>>> I've explained how the "login failed, perhaps you need to turn on
+>>> cookies?" can happen and what it means. Clearly nothing to do with
+>>> http; clearly not specific to branchable.
+>>>
+>>> I just now logged into this site using openid over http, and it worked
+>>> ok. I think it's more likely that the `time_bad_sig` problem occurs
+>>> intermittently (which would make sense if it's a timing related issue),
+>>> and so you've just so happened to see it when logging in with
+>>> http and not https, than that there's actually a correlation.
+>>> --[[Joey]]