-A plugin system should ideally support things like:
+Suggestions of ideas for plugins:
-* [[todo/lists]] of pages, of mising pages / broken links, of registered users, etc
-* a [[todo/link_map]]
-* [[pageindexes]]
-* Wiki stats, such as the total number of pages, total number of links, most linked to pages, etc, etc.
-* wiki info page, giving the ikiwiki version etc
-* would it be useful to reimplement the hyperestradier search integration as a plugin?
-* Support [[RecentChanges]] as a regular page containing a plugin that updates each time there is a change, and statically builds the recent changes list. (Would this be too expensive/inflexible? There might be other ways to do it as a plugin, like making all links to RecentChanges link to the cgi and have the cgi render it on demand.)
-* etc
-* For another type of plugin, see [[todo/PluggableRenderers]].
+* enable editable, non-htmlized files
-Another, separate plugin system that already (mostly) exists in ikiwiki is
-the RCS backend, which allows writing modules to drive other RCS systems
-than subversion.
+ Some months ago, before upgrading my wiki, I used svn to check in an XML file
+ and a companion XSL file for client-side styling. That was cool, ikiwiki
+ copied them over unchanged and the file could be linked to as `\[[foo|foo.xml]]`.
-## preprocessor plugins
+ I even had the XSL produce an `Edit` link at the top, because I wanted a simple
+ way for a web user to edit the XML. But I had to hack stuff to make the edit CGI
+ not say `foo.xml is not an editable page`.
-done
+ I did that in a kind of slash-and-burn way, and apparently that's the one change
+ that was uncommitted when I upgraded ikiwiki, so now it's in the same place
+ as the wikiwyg project. On the bright side, that's a chance to think about how to
+ do it better.
-## case study: Moin Moin plugins
+ Any suggestions for appropriate uses of existing plugins, or the plugin API,
+ to selectively add to the set of files in the working copy that the edit CGI
+ will consider editable? --ChapmanFlack 17July2008
-See <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDev/PluginConcept>
+ > It looks like 80% of the job would be accomplished by hooking `htmlize` for
+ > the `.xml` extension. That would satisfy the `pagetype` test that causes
+ > the edit CGI to say `not an editable page`. (That happens too early for a
+ > `canedit` hook.) The `htmlize` hook could just
+ > copy in to out unchanged (this is an internal wiki, I'm not thinking hard
+ > about evil XML content right now). For extra credit, an `editcontent` hook
+ > could validate the XML. (Can an `editcontent` hook signal a content error?)
-6 different types of plugins:
+ > The tricky bit seems to be to register the fact that the target file should
+ > have extension `.xml` and not `.html`. Maybe what's needed is a generalized
+ > notion of an `htmlize` hook, one that specifies its output extension as well
+ > as its input, and isn't assumed to produce html? --ChapmanFlack 17July2008
-* *actions* are possibly out of scope for ikiwiki, this is probably what it uses for cgi script type stuff. Unless ikiwiki wants to allow pluggable CGI script stuff, it doesn't need these.
-* *parsers* and *formatters* are basically what I've been calling [[PluggableRenderers]]. MoinMoin separates these, so that a page is parsed to (presumbly) some intermediate form before being output as html or some other form. That's a nice separation, but what to do about things like markdown that are both a parser and a formatter?
-* *macros* and *processors* are analagous to preprocessor directives. A processor can operate on a large block of text though.
-* *themes* should be irrellevant (ikiwiki has [[templates]]).
+ > Belay that, there's nothing good about trying to use `htmlize` for this; too
+ > many html-specific assumptions follow. For now I'm back to an embarrassing quick
+ > hack that allows editing my xml file. But here's the larger generalization I
+ > think this is driving at:
+
+ > IkiWiki is currently a tool that can compile a wiki by doing two things:
+ > 1. Process files of various input types _foo_ into a single output type, html, by
+ > finding suitable _foo_->html plugins, applying various useful transformations
+ > along the way.
+ > 1. Process files of other input types by copying them with no useful transformations at all.
+
+ > What it could be: a tool that compiles a wiki by doing this:
+ > 1. Process files of various input types _foo_ into various output types _bar_, by
+ > finding suitable _foo_->_bar_ plugins, applying various useful transformations along
+ > the way, but only those that apply to the _foo_->_bar_ conversion.
+ > 1. The second case above is now just a special case of 1 where _foo_->_foo_ for any
+ > unknown _foo_ is just a copy, and no other transformations apply.
+
+ > In some ways this seems like an easy and natural generalization. `%renderedfiles`
+ > is already mostly there, keeping the actual names of rendered files without assuming
+ > an html extension. There isn't a mechanism yet to say which transformations for
+ > linkification, preprocessing, etc., apply to which in/out types, but it could be
+ > easily added without a flag day. Right now, they _all_ apply to any input type for
+ > which an `htmlize` hook exists, and _none_ otherwise. That rule could be retained
+ > with an optional hook parameter available to override it.
+
+ > The hard part is just that right now the assumption of html as the one destination
+ > type is in the code a lot. --ChapmanFlack
+
+ >> Readers who bought this also liked: [[format_escape]], [[multiple_output_formats]]
+ >> --[[JeremieKoenig]]
+
+* list of registered users - tricky because it sorta calls for a way to rebuild the page when a new user is registered. Might be better as a cgi?
+> At best, this could only show the users who have logged in, not all
+> permitted by the current auth plugin(s). HTTP auth would need
+> web-server-specific code to list all users, and openid can't feasibly do so
+> at all. --[[JoshTriplett]]
+
+* For PlaceWiki I want to be able to do some custom plugins, including one
+ that links together subpages about the same place created by different
+ users. This seems to call for a plugin that applies to every page w/o any
+ specific marker being used, and pre-or-post-processes the full page
+ content. It also needs to update pages when related pages are added,
+ so it needs to register dependencies pre-emptively between pages,
+ or something. It's possible that this is a special case of backlinks and
+ is best implemented by making backlinks a plugin somehow. --[[Joey]]
+
+* random page (cgi plugin; how to link to it easily?)
+
+* How about an event calendar. Events could be sub-pages with an embedded
+ code to detail recurrance and/or event date/time
+
+* rcs plugin ([[JeremyReed]] has one he has been using for over a month with over 850 web commits with 13 users with over ten commits each.)
+
+* asciidoc or txt2tags format plugins
+
+ Should be quite easy to write, the otl plugin is a good example of a
+ similar formatter.
+
+>>Isn't there a conflict between ikiwiki using \[\[ \]\] and asciidoc using the same?
+>>There is a start of an asciidoc plugin at <http://www.mail-archive.com/asciidoc-discuss@metaperl.com/msg00120.html>
+>>-- KarlMW
+
+* manpage plugin: convert **"ls(1)"** style content into Markdown like **\[ls(1)\]\(http://example.org/man.cgi?name=ls§=1\)** or into HTML directly.
+
+> With a full installation of groff available, man offers HTML output. Might
+> take some fiddling to make it fit into the ikiwiki templates, and you might
+> or might not want to convert pages in the SEE ALSO as
+> well. --[[JoshTriplett]]
+
+* As I couldn't find another place to ask, I'll try here. I would like to install some contributed plugins, but can not find anywhere to downlod them.
+
+ > Not sure what you mean, the [[plugins/contrib]] page lists contributed plugins, and each of their pages tells where to download the plugin from.. --[[Joey]]
+
+* I wrote a very crude wrapper around tex4ht to render TeX files. I hesitate to give it a contrib/plugins page in its current state, but if someone wants to play, [here](http://www.cs.unb.ca/~bremner/wiki/software/ikiwiki/tex4ht.pm) it is.--[[DavidBremner]]
+
+* Setting default values for the meta plugin in the setup file, particularly author, license, and copyright, would be useful
+There is work in progress at
+[[plugins/contrib/default_content_for___42__copyright__42___and___42__license__42__]]
+-- [[DavidBremner]]
+
+* Would it make sense to have a hook to set the page name? This would solve a problem I see with
+[[source_code_highlighting|plugins/contrib/sourcehighlight]]
+-- [[DavidBremner]]