>>> to avoid breaking existing functionality, it implies to hack a bit
>>> [[plugins/edittemplate]] so that multiple templates can be
>>> inserted at page creation time. [[--intrigeri]]
+>>>
+>>>> I implemented such a warning using the formbuilder_setup hook.
+>>>> --[[intrigeri]]
>>
>> And also, is there any way to start a translation of a page into a new
>> lanauge using the web interface?
I've set this plugin development aside for a while. I will be back and
finish it at some point in the first quarter of 2009. --[[intrigeri]]
+
+> Abstract: Joey, please have a look at my po and meta branches.
+>
+> Detailed progress report:
+>
+> * it seems the po branch in your repository has not been tracking my
+> own po branch for two months. any config issue?
+> * all the plugin's todo items have been completed, robustness tests
+> done
+> * I've finished the detailed security audit, and the fix for po4a
+> bugs has entered upstream CVS last week
+> * I've merged your new `checkcontent` hook with the `cansave` hook
+> I previously introduced in my own branch; blogspam plugin updated
+> accordingly
+> * the rename hook changes we discussed elsewhere are also part of my
+> branch
+> * I've introduced two new hooks (`canremove` and `canrename`), not
+> a big deal; IMHO, they extend quite logically the plugin interface
+> * as highlighted on [[bugs/pagetitle_function_does_not_respect_meta_titles]],
+> my `meta` branch contains a new feature that is really useful in a
+> translatable wiki
+>
+> As a conclusion, I'm feeling that my branches are ready to be
+> merged; only thing missing, I guess, are a bit of discussion and
+> subsequent adjustments.
+>
+> --[[intrigeri]]
+
+> I've looked it over and updated my branch with some (untested)
+> changes.
+>
+> Sorry, I'd forgotten about your cansave hook.. sorry for the duplicate
+> work there.
+>
+> Reviewing the changes, mostly outside of `po.pm`, I have
+> the following issues.
+>
+> * renamepage to renamelink change would break the ikiwiki
+> 3.x API, which I've promised not to do, so needs to be avoided
+> somehow. (Sorry, I guess I dropped the ball on not getting this
+> API change in before cutting 3.0..)
+>
+>> I'm discussing the solutions we now have on
+>> [[todo/need_global_renamepage_hook]], as the solution I implemented
+>> was initially agreed on there.
+>>
+> * I don't understand the parentlinks code change and need to figure it
+> out. Can you explain what is going on there?
+>>
+>> I'm calling `bestlink` there so that po's injected `bestlink` is
+>> run. This way, the parent links of a page link to the parent page
+>> version in the proper language, depending on the
+>> `po_link_to=current` and `po_link_to=negotiated` settings.
+>> Moreover, when using my meta branch enhancements plus meta title to
+>> make pages titles translatable, this small patch is needed to get
+>> the translated titles into parentlinks.
+>>
+> * canrename's mix of positional and named parameters is way too
+> ugly to get into an ikiwiki API. Use named parameters
+> entirely. Also probably should just use named parameters
+> for canremove.
+> * `skeleton.pm.example`'s canrename needs fixing to use either
+> the current or my suggested parameters.
+>>
+>> I'll do both.
+>>
+> * I don't like the exporting of `%backlinks` and `$backlinks_calculated`
+> (the latter is exported but not used).
+>>
+>> The commit message for 85f865b5d98e0122934d11e3f3eb6703e4f4c620
+>> contains the rationale for this change. I guess I don't understand
+>> the subtleties of `our` use, and perldoc does not help me a lot.
+>> IIRC, I actually did not use `our` to "export" these variables, but
+>> rather to have them shared between `Render.pm` uses.
+>>
+> * What is this `IkiWiki::nicepagetitle` and why are you
+> injecting it into that namespace when only your module uses it?
+> Actually, I can't even find a caller of it in your module.
+>>
+>> I guess you should have a look to my `meta` branch and to
+>> [[bugs/pagetitle_function_does_not_respect_meta_titles]] in order
+>> to understand this :)
+>>
+> * I'm very fearful of the `add_depends` in `postscan`.
+> Does this make every page depend on every page that links
+> to it? Won't this absurdly bloat the dependency pagespecs
+> and slow everything down? And since nicepagetitle is given
+> as the reason for doing it, and nicepagetitle isn't used,
+> why do it?
+>>
+>> As explained in the 85f865b5d98e0122934d11e3f3eb6703e4f4c620 log:
+>> this feature hits performance a bit. Its cost was quite small in my
+>> real-world use-cases (a few percents bigger refresh time), but
+>> could be bigger in worst cases. When using the po plugin with my
+>> meta branch changes (i.e. the `nicepagetitle` thing), and having
+>> enabled the option to display translation status in links, this
+>> maintains the translation status up-to-date in backlinks. Same when
+>> using meta title to make the pages titles translatable. It does
+>> help having a nice and consistent translated wiki, but as it hurts
+>> performance, I'm proposing to turn it into an option.
+>>
+> * The po4a Suggests should be versioned to the first version
+> that can be used safely, and that version documented in
+> `plugins/po.mdwn`.
+>>
+>> Sure. I was waiting for the necessary version to be actually
+>> released, but we can guess it will be 0.35.
+>>
+>> --[[intrigeri]]
+>
+> --[[Joey]]