From bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org Thu Jul 31 20:47:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca Delivery-date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:37 -0300 Received: from mailserv2.unb.ca ([131.202.1.10]) by pivot.cs.unb.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KOhrt-0006IH-Gf for bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:37 -0300 Received: from mx3.nbpei-ecn.ca (mx3.nbpei-ecn.ca [198.164.163.196]) by mailserv2.unb.ca (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6VNlN1c009709 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:32 -0300 Received: from mx3.nbpei-ecn.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AEF1E6290 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from liszt.debian.org (liszt.debian.org [82.195.75.100]) by mx3.nbpei-ecn.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25CBE542A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 891DA13A558D; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=LDO_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Original-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Delivered-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9882313A5582 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from liszt.debian.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lists.debian.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 2525) with ESMTP id 21563-46 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:14 +0000 (UTC) X-policyd-weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .stanford. - helo: .smtp2.stanford. - helo-domain: .stanford.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2 , rate: -7 Received: from smtp2.stanford.edu (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.67.20.25]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9134E13A5580 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.stanford.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CC1765B49C for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (windlord.Stanford.EDU [171.64.19.147]) by smtp2.stanford.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0286C65A5B6 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by windlord.stanford.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C4860E7924; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:47:04 -0700 (PDT) To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: versioned Build-Depends on debhelper In-Reply-To: <200807311610.12695.toots@rastageeks.org> (Romain Beauxis's message of "Thu\, 31 Jul 2008 16\:10\:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) References: <20080730182218.GA23851@shota.mine.nu> <87ej5bgjle.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <20080730215744.GF20919@torres.zugschlus.de> <200807311610.12695.toots@rastageeks.org> From: Russ Allbery Organization: The Eyrie Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: <873alp8vlz.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on mailserv2.unb.ca X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-lt X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-5 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3 tests=[LDO_WHITELIST=-5] X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/42425 X-Loop: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-mentors-request@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.7.31.233114 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1000_1099 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_HELP 0, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sender-Verified: bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org Romain Beauxis writes: > Well, while I wouldn't ask to remove a versioned build-dep, you could > also argue with your reasoning that all build-dep should be versioned.. > > I think a relatively safe requirement is to version if it needs more > than the current stable (or perhaps oldstable) version. I think of debhelper as a special case since it's so easy to know what versioned dependency to use and it's possible to programmatically check that you've got the right one (against the compat file). For most other cases, I would only version a dependency if I knew there was an oldstable (or even just stable) version that didn't support what I needed, but with debhelper it's just so easy to always version it for consistency. -- Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org