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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=K86MfRpAgPegojeysEw9Z1JQaweKT4q6/LQ2fE53GK6DIHVcINdpmEVgR4t0Y46JHp ICBhLDKnjcQbPLRRHmK9YteiokayJLexwMT0ziWVHqixuGBHQ319K+iNRxopBketcCQI KWVX7pz5c9d37p1f7dZtNmgyP4ALczVTGORc4= Received: by 10.141.79.12 with SMTP id g12mr4907590rvl.29.1217457756272; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.202.10 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b2d7b4d0807301542u41a4b774pa8b5fda67554f0da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:42:36 +0200 From: "Sandro Tosi" To: debian-mentors Subject: Re: ftp-masters In-Reply-To: <87ljzjatoi.fsf@benfinney.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080730115010.GA24515@shota.mine.nu> <200807301404.49015.t.quathamer@gmx.net> <87tze7bjp5.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <8b2d7b4d0807300615m129c35f8x7789b376b958e35a@mail.gmail.com> <87ljzjatoi.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on mailserv4.its.unb.ca X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-lt X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.363 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3 tests=[GMAIL=1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, ONEWORD=2, SARE_MSGID_LONG40=0.637] X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/42405 X-Loop: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-mentors-request@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:42:48 +0000 (UTC) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.7.30.222943 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_2000_2999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, WEBMAIL_SOURCE 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __C230066_P1_2 0, __CD 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_BODY_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL_FROM 0, __FROM_GMAIL 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_HELP 0, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_HTTP_RECEIVED 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_2 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sender-Verified: bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 00:33, Ben Finney wrote: > "Sandro Tosi" writes: > >> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 15:11, Ben Finney wrote: >> > [T]here's no good reason I can see to re-use a release number >> > after it's uploaded. >> >> Because it never reach the archive, so it's better to keep the same >> version for a REJECTED package > > Why is it better? What benefit does it bring to retain the same > version string, including release number, for two different packages > that have both been uploaded by the maintainer? > >> jumping revision is useless. > > It's useful because it clearly distinguishes two different package > uploads by the maintainer. By definition, they are at least different > enough that one was REJECTED and the later one hopes not to meet the > same fate. > > That keeps discussions about which one is which easy, and it even > makes it trivial to distinguish in the package changelog, by > separating the two releases and describing what was done for the later > one to make it different. > > That's a tangible benefit, not "useless". What is the benefit in not > doing that? Because it doesn't add any information for the end users, if not confusion: it seems that 2 different version reached the archive, since the users will see 2 different entries in the changelog (for example using apt-listchanges) when indeed there is only 1 package uploaded after the one previou in the archive. So, simply changing the current REJECTED changelog entry adding/modifing/removing items in it it's clearer. Ah, did I forgot to remember that "Our priorities are our users and free software"? Sandro -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, Morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org