From bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org Thu Jul 31 11:10:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca Delivery-date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:10:17 -0300 Received: from mailserv4.its.unb.ca ([131.202.1.27]) by pivot.cs.unb.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KOYrB-0004oT-2G for bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:10:17 -0300 Received: from mx4.nbpei-ecn.ca (mx4.nbpei-ecn.ca [198.164.163.197]) by mailserv4.its.unb.ca (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6VEA9QF016931 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:10:11 -0300 Received: from mx4.nbpei-ecn.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F8A57C404A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:10:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from liszt.debian.org (liszt.debian.org [82.195.75.100]) by mx4.nbpei-ecn.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCA67C4051 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:10:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 779EA13A63E6; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.0 required=4.0 tests=GMAIL,LDOSUBSCRIBER, LDO_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Original-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Delivered-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FFD13A62D7 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from liszt.debian.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lists.debian.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 2525) with ESMTP id 16475-93 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) X-policyd-weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_FROM_MX=-3.1 , rate: -6.1 Received: from mail.rastageeks.org (www.rastageeks.org [88.191.17.132]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A727613A62B8 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ras-macintosh.local (rob92-9-88-161-115-205.fbx.proxad.net [88.161.115.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rastageeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCB8A5121 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:09:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Romain Beauxis To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: versioned Build-Depends on debhelper Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:10:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080730182218.GA23851@shota.mine.nu> <87ej5bgjle.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <20080730215744.GF20919@torres.zugschlus.de> In-Reply-To: <20080730215744.GF20919@torres.zugschlus.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807311610.12695.toots@rastageeks.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on mailserv4.its.unb.ca X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-lt X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-4 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3 tests=[GMAIL=1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/42415 X-Loop: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-mentors-request@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:10:09 +0000 (UTC) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.7.31.135345 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1200_1299 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __CD 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_BODY_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_HELP 0, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sender-Verified: bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org Le Wednesday 30 July 2008 23:57:44 Marc Haber, vous avez =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:14:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Stanislav Maslovski writes: > > > My sponsor asked me to delete versioned build dependency on debhelper. > > > > I think this is bad advice. > > I agree. There are people building Debian packages on older releases, > and having a package fail because a known versioned dependency had its > version removed it a disservice to those people. > > I might be missing arguments for removing the version, but I have only > been a DD for like seven years. Well, while I wouldn't ask to remove a versioned build-dep, you could also argue with your reasoning that all build-dep should be versioned.. I think a relatively safe requirement is to version if it needs more than the current stable (or perhaps oldstable) version. Romain =2D-=20 I've got to get away from here This is not a place for me to stay I've got to take my family We'll find a quiet place -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org