From bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org Wed Jul 30 18:09:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:35 -0300 Received: from mailserv2.unb.ca ([131.202.1.10]) by pivot.cs.unb.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KOIvP-0006l9-Er for bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:35 -0300 Received: from mx2.nbpei-ecn.ca (mx2.nbpei-ecn.ca [198.164.163.195]) by mailserv2.unb.ca (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6UL9Pcx005938 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:30 -0300 Received: from mx2.nbpei-ecn.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 393A9444018 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from liszt.debian.org (liszt.debian.org [82.195.75.100]) by mx2.nbpei-ecn.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96B44406B for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id B180713A558A; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD, LDO_WHITELIST,MDO_DATING2,ONEWORD autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Original-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Delivered-To: lists-debian-mentors@liszt.debian.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C21D13A555C for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from liszt.debian.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lists.debian.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 2525) with ESMTP id 30169-89 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:09:14 +0000 (UTC) X-policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -5 Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [138.23.92.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBA013A5286 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6UL93vO004859 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09:03 -0700 Received: (from remotemail@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m6UL93LP004858 for debian-mentors@lists.debian.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09:03 -0700 Received: (nullmailer pid 28214 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:08:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:08:57 -0700 From: Don Armstrong To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ftp-masters Message-ID: <20080730210857.GO21393@volo.donarmstrong.com> Mail-Followup-To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org References: <20080730115010.GA24515@shota.mine.nu> <200807301404.49015.t.quathamer@gmx.net> <87tze7bjp5.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <8b2d7b4d0807300615m129c35f8x7789b376b958e35a@mail.gmail.com> <20080730193744.GM21393@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20080730203438.GF4563@ikibiki.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080730203438.GF4563@ikibiki.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on mailserv2.unb.ca X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-lt X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.88 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3 tests=[FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD=0.02, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MDO_DATING2=0.1, ONEWORD=2] X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/42401 X-Loop: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-mentors-request@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:09:23 +0000 (UTC) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.7.30.205520 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1700_1799 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __C230066_P1_2 0, __CD 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_HELP 0, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sender-Verified: bounce-debian-mentors=bremner=unb.ca@lists.debian.org On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Don Armstrong (30/07/2008): > > There's no reason not to increment the version. You've made a > > release, and have made changes to that release. Whether it > > actually hits the archive is immaterial. You just build with the > > appropriate -v option, and you're done. > > And when one checks in which revision this or that happened, that's > quite misleading not to see any upload in the archive matching those > revisions (yeah for QA work!). In QA work you're always comparing revisions. There's no difference between dealing with versions which skipped the archive because they were QAed elsewhere, or versions which are no longer in the archive because they have been superseded. Furthemore, in this case, there was an upload, it just never made it out of NEW. > > Moreover, a new revision makes it easier for everyone to follow > > what had changed between a version which was reviewed by the > > ftpmasters and the next version that was uploaded. > > That was already discussed at length in another mentors.d.n thread > (other threads actually). There's a significant difference between uploads to mentors.d.n and uploads to debian.org. If you actually uploaded to the archive, even if it never made it out of NEW, you should never elide changelogs. Don Armstrong -- Three little words. (In descending order of importance.) I love you -- hugh macleod http://www.gapingvoid.com/graphics/batch35.php http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org